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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:27:19 +0200
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Subject: Re: Events calendar
From: Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com>
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The question is surely important, and can't be circumvented for a
organisation that spends a load of money on furthering the projects and
their works.

Not only do we need mid and long term plans from every office, but we also
need the supporting and governing processes and procedures written down and
made available to the ASF community. That way we al can see what needs to
be done when it needs to be done.

For example, recent mails regarding the various activities executed for the
ACNA 15 event pointed out that things got forgotten (like presentation
templates). For such events we need scripts, and such scripts need to
evaluated and improved after the event. That way we don't make the mistakes
when doing a new event like we did in the past.

Most importantly, Offices need to take ownership.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

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On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:

> To get people involved we need to provide value. Today, we offer no value.
> So, if I may, I would like to answer a slightly different question. The one
> I want to answer is "how can we provide value so that PMCs will proactively
> maintain a central events calendar?" Here's my starting answer, more ideas
> very welcome...
>
> VP Brand has added a clause to the events policy that requires avoidance
> of event date clashes.
>
> Marketing is ramping up on a quarterly report that, once we are in the
> swing of things, will be broadly distributed (and thus provide visibility
> for events listed in the calendar).
>
> We have a budget for stickers and other such giveaways at community
> events, we won't ship those unless it's on the calendar.
>
> More?....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbowen@rcbowen.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 2:01 PM
> To: dev
> Subject: Events calendar
>
> Today I found out about yet another Apache event that is almost here and I
> hadn't heard about before.
>
> I also noticed that http://www.apache.org/events/ is ... kinda
> embarrassing.
>
> This, in conjunction with Jan's question a week ago about who managed the
> calendar on people.a.o, which is completely a separate thing from the
> calendar I thought he was talking about - the Google calendar, at
> http://community.apache.org/calendars/conferences.html - makes me wonder
> why this is so hard for us.
>
> So, two questions:
>
> 1) What other calendars are out there, and what can we do to consolidate
> them?
>
> 2) How can we get PMCs to put their events in that consolidated calendar,
> once it exists, so that we don't have all of these last-minute event
> surprises, and, also, so that we can help in promoting our communities'
> events?
>
> Suggestions welcome.
>
> I, for one, am a fan of nuking every calendar we come across, and
> publishing the above Google Calendar all over the place, and then making a
> google form for people to submit events.
>
> --Rich
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ -
> @apachecon
>

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