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From jan i <>
Subject Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016
Date Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:02:37 GMT
On 13 April 2015 at 20:42, Roger and Beth Whitcomb <> wrote:

> Pivot is using Apache Extras basically for "source-code for projects that
> can't..." because of licensing issues.  So, my feeling is we are different
> than AOO.

AOO uses apache-extra, for libraries that we cannot include in our repo due
to license restriction. These libraries are solely used by developers who
work on the
internals of AOO. One developer typically download the libraries once and
then check from time to time for updates. The binaries are relative big,
but the download numbers really low. These binaries should not be confused
with our executables which are big and downloaded frequently, these are
stored on sourceForge.

jan I.

> ~Roger Whitcomb
> Apache Pivot PMC Chair
> On 4/13/15 6:48 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>> How much of Apache Extras is "binary dumping ground" (as used by OO
>> builds), and how much is just "source-code for projects that
>> can't/won't quite fit into ASF" (e.g. for licensing reasons or lack of
>> community)?
>> As long as you have the source code, then you can attach binaries to
>> tagged releases in GitHub.
>> Atlassian's BitBucket likewise provides both source code and binary
>> hosting - here binaries are easier to attach independently.
>> As I said, I also found BinTray a great way to do independent
>> downloads, with the optional capability of Maven repository with
>> mirroring to Central as a nice thing for those still doing
>> Java/Groovy/Clojure/Scala etc.
>> It's still "all eggs in one company's basket" of course.. but then so
>> is SourceForge.. and at the moment I would be more worried about
>> SourceForge disappearing than GitHub or Atlassian.
>> On 13 April 2015 at 06:17, Branko ─îibej <> wrote:
>>> On 19.03.2015 06:22, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>>> +1 for GitHub  - as Apache Extras are easily mini-communities of one
>>>> or two people and not as clear way in to contribute.
>>>> GitHub should seriously be considered. Making an apache-extras
>>>> organization there should be straight forward.
>>> GitHub neither provides nor allows the kind of service that Apache
>>> Extras needs. It's pretty much useless as a pure download server, their
>>> terms explicitly say they can shut down a project without notice if they
>>> don't like its bandwidth characteristics.
>>>  As for binaries - I found it very useful to use BinTray for Beanshell
>>>> - as I could do both Maven and regular downloads:
>>> Do please consider that all the world cannot use Maven just as all the
>>> world is not written in Java.
>>> -- Brane

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