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From Rich Bowen <>
Subject Re: Events calendar
Date Wed, 15 Apr 2015 17:00:12 GMT

On 04/10/2015 04:26 PM, jan i wrote:
> On 10 April 2015 at 23:09, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
>> wrote:
>> To get people involved we need to provide value. Today, we offer no value.
>> So, if I may, I would like to answer a slightly different question. The one
>> I want to answer is "how can we provide value so that PMCs will proactively
>> maintain a central events calendar?" Here's my starting answer, more ideas
>> very welcome...
>> VP Brand has added a clause to the events policy that requires avoidance
>> of event date clashes.
>> Marketing is ramping up on a quarterly report that, once we are in the
>> swing of things, will be broadly distributed (and thus provide visibility
>> for events listed in the calendar).
>> We have a budget for stickers and other such giveaways at community
>> events, we won't ship those unless it's on the calendar.
> Marketing can announce the events on twitter etc, when they are in the
> common calendar, and not only in quarterly reports.

My impression has always been that Marketing isn't going to do messaging 
around project-specific events like this. But we, as individuals, can do 
that. I've been doing some project-specific promotion lately, as folks 
may have noticed. As an individual member.

> THE calendar get a link from and thus gets a lot more hits..
> It must be easy to add events, no long mail discussions, but a simple web
> page and e.g. the acceptance from comDev (similar to moderating a mailing
> list).
> It is also not just about value, but also about knowing....I started in one
> calendar where I saw ACEU was missing, then I searched for another event
> and came across the other calendar. Our events should not be found by
> accident. I believe having ONE calendar that is been given links from top
> pages and being actively promoted, is good value for all PMCs, whereas n
> calendars are of no value.
> rgds
> jan I.
>> More?....
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rich Bowen []
>> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 2:01 PM
>> To: dev
>> Subject: Events calendar
>> Today I found out about yet another Apache event that is almost here and I
>> hadn't heard about before.
>> I also noticed that is ... kinda
>> embarrassing.
>> This, in conjunction with Jan's question a week ago about who managed the
>> calendar on people.a.o, which is completely a separate thing from the
>> calendar I thought he was talking about - the Google calendar, at
>> - makes me wonder
>> why this is so hard for us.
>> So, two questions:
>> 1) What other calendars are out there, and what can we do to consolidate
>> them?
>> 2) How can we get PMCs to put their events in that consolidated calendar,
>> once it exists, so that we don't have all of these last-minute event
>> surprises, and, also, so that we can help in promoting our communities'
>> events?
>> Suggestions welcome.
>> I, for one, am a fan of nuking every calendar we come across, and
>> publishing the above Google Calendar all over the place, and then making a
>> google form for people to submit events.
>> --Rich
>> --
>> Rich Bowen - - @rbowen -
>> @apachecon

Rich Bowen - - @rbowen - @apachecon

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