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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Chairs: A small addition to the Marvin email you received yesterday.
Date Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:27:47 GMT
On 10 March 2015 at 18:14, Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Jan,
> It's not a secret - it was disclosed on a public mailing list (this one)
> :).
> Currently a login is required to be able to compile the list of projects
> you are affiliated with, and it is kept pmcs only because it only makes
> sense for PMC members. Seccondly, it is not geared for "anonymous" viewing
> simply because the data compilation does not scale well. It can handle some
> 5,000 people knowing about it, but not 5,000,000 people :).
> Thirdly, this is a tool for generating a board report, not an activity
> monitor meant for the public. I wrote it to serve the PMCs, and the PMCs
> may or may not choose to have mailing list data publicly available, that is
> not for me to decide.
>
OK got it, a very valid reason.


>
> What we _could_ do publicly is tie some of the gathered information into
> the new projects.apache.org site, and provide it through there
> (committership/PMC changes for instance as well as release data), but I am
> at the edge of what I'm willing to single-handedly do for that project (it
> was never meant to be a one-man project), so I'll need someone else to step
> in and collaborate with me on that.
>
Sounds like a hint to me. I would like to see the mail graphs public as
they are a a good barometer for the communities.

I my skills is suited, I volunteer to help you, even though it will be in
form of patches since I believe I do not have karma.

Can you give me some pointers offlist (I will come on hipchat later).

rgds
jan I.


>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
>
> On 2015-03-10 18:04, jan i wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> The tool is real awesome, but is there a reason to keep it so secret.
>>
>> I would like to share the nice mail graphs with my fellow committers, and
>> I
>> cannot really see any secret in the reports.
>>
>> My suggestion is, keep it as it is for people who do a login (that is a
>> big
>> help), but allow a non-login version with (nearly) the same information.
>>
>> I find tools like this awesome, but do not understand why we try to make a
>> lot of this for members or PMCs only, Apache is also about transparency,
>> and this tool only collect information (except for the private lists),
>> that
>> can be found publicly.
>>
>>
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>>
>> On 10 March 2015 at 17:42, Kevin A. McGrail <kevin.mcgrail@mcgrail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  This is AWESOME!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/5/2015 9:31 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi Project chairs,
>>>> In yesterday's email to you about your upcoming board report, we forgot
>>>> to mention that we have a new tool that can help you in cobbling
>>>> together a
>>>> report, or just view statistics of the PMCs you are on.
>>>>
>>>> The new service is located at: https://reporter.apache.org and is PMC
>>>> members only.
>>>> Should you choose to make use of the board report template in this
>>>> system, do remember to add in the important activity bits and any issues
>>>> that require board activity.
>>>>
>>>> Next time Marvin sends you an email, it will include the URL for the
>>>> reporter system.
>>>>
>>>> If you have ANY feedback about this system, don't hesitate to let us
>>>> know! :)
>>>>
>>>> On behalf of the Community Development Project,
>>>> Daniel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>

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