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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Veto! Veto?
Date Tue, 24 Mar 2015 13:53:06 GMT
On Tuesday, March 24, 2015, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:43 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> > <bdelacretaz@apache.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Jacques Le Roux
> > > <jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> Who will update the https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html
> > page?*
> > >
> > > I've done that, it now says "In general, committer elections are
> > > majority approval votes, as described on the Apache Voting Process
> > > page" with a link.
> >
> > That's not my understanding. It's not what I've heard from the Board
> > over the years, particularly from Greg. And I believe that it's for a
> > very good reason that personnel votes at Apache are not majority rule:
> > majority rule forces a result rather than creates consensus.
> >
>
> I dislike all voting, yes. Consensus through discussion is definitely a
> better approach.
>
> Concretely: I don't think there is any specific recommendation for how a
> PMC/community decides upon new committers. I've seen many mechanisms. In
> fact, within Apache Subversion, a committer can be added by any *singular*
> PMC member, no vote required (but their resulting commit rights are
> limited).

Just for my understanding,  does subversion have 2 types of committer one
with the full subversion repo bit, and another limited (to part of the
repo) ?

rgds
jan i

>
> For PMC Members, Roy has stated [on general@incubator, on 1/31/2012] that:
>
> "Well, it boils down to the fact that making someone a PMC member gives
> them veto power over the changes you make.  The only way that works
> socially is if everyone currently on the PMC agrees that person is a peer."
>
> >...
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>


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