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From Daniel Gruno <>
Subject Re: Chairs: A small addition to the Marvin email you received yesterday.
Date Tue, 10 Mar 2015 17:14:11 GMT
Hi Jan,
It's not a secret - it was disclosed on a public mailing list (this one) :).
Currently a login is required to be able to compile the list of projects 
you are affiliated with, and it is kept pmcs only because it only makes 
sense for PMC members. Seccondly, it is not geared for "anonymous" 
viewing simply because the data compilation does not scale well. It can 
handle some 5,000 people knowing about it, but not 5,000,000 people :).
Thirdly, this is a tool for generating a board report, not an activity 
monitor meant for the public. I wrote it to serve the PMCs, and the PMCs 
may or may not choose to have mailing list data publicly available, that 
is not for me to decide.

What we _could_ do publicly is tie some of the gathered information into 
the new site, and provide it through there 
(committership/PMC changes for instance as well as release data), but I 
am at the edge of what I'm willing to single-handedly do for that 
project (it was never meant to be a one-man project), so I'll need 
someone else to step in and collaborate with me on that.

With regards,

On 2015-03-10 18:04, jan i wrote:
> Hi.
> The tool is real awesome, but is there a reason to keep it so secret.
> I would like to share the nice mail graphs with my fellow committers, and I
> cannot really see any secret in the reports.
> My suggestion is, keep it as it is for people who do a login (that is a big
> help), but allow a non-login version with (nearly) the same information.
> I find tools like this awesome, but do not understand why we try to make a
> lot of this for members or PMCs only, Apache is also about transparency,
> and this tool only collect information (except for the private lists), that
> can be found publicly.
> rgds
> jan I.
> On 10 March 2015 at 17:42, Kevin A. McGrail <>
> wrote:
>> This is AWESOME!
>> On 3/5/2015 9:31 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>> Hi Project chairs,
>>> In yesterday's email to you about your upcoming board report, we forgot
>>> to mention that we have a new tool that can help you in cobbling together a
>>> report, or just view statistics of the PMCs you are on.
>>> The new service is located at: and is PMC
>>> members only.
>>> Should you choose to make use of the board report template in this
>>> system, do remember to add in the important activity bits and any issues
>>> that require board activity.
>>> Next time Marvin sends you an email, it will include the URL for the
>>> reporter system.
>>> If you have ANY feedback about this system, don't hesitate to let us
>>> know! :)
>>> On behalf of the Community Development Project,
>>> Daniel.

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