Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37CA210085 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 20:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23005 invoked by uid 500); 20 Feb 2015 20:55:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 22775 invoked by uid 500); 20 Feb 2015 20:55:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 22764 invoked by uid 99); 20 Feb 2015 20:55:33 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 20:55:33 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: error (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.220.42] (HELO mail-pa0-f42.google.com) (209.85.220.42) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 20:55:29 +0000 Received: by padfa1 with SMTP id fa1so10798894pad.2 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:54:49 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=g4Pgdm3V2Fe4ViZyZmIT/MP67Vx5O9/ZeUJQAXpXbAk=; b=QMYnKZT4Dd83XFNCDqzLciJGo0c6pKOjQ55ZywCvSbv0K/suxjmt2HpW3yn+tDbshd 1CX9wp9IL3GaPAoLLQiFymhx9HicffQbnLQv2lpQQNLrR304hfcFT7saghUeLo+w1VFI N86IZBk7uLGlhTOPDJpff2h/OfTSxNutBVXDCGQEzyl9hS37dyrPaQL91SWevTC7YtSD 7Y1/KwpvYJ4P9g4fw/Bh6ZKGmdb+jHsDzJSlUvrSntxcl8hcjdj5VHasam4rckIdTF8E +butUh1QmEqhbrAql+DOjpFZkH2Zhm1E+MPcQba7Q5GDynDKLkc9eemE90HMpYqLgYYZ mXkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlximadVpKZoWjUCWMjqORq+vqAyHuaRPntWlHOy50+bJdJCkTNn8zX9nrGov5/xEmCOUO+ X-Received: by 10.66.186.166 with SMTP id fl6mr19715323pac.95.1424465689047; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([2607:ff38:3:811c:3ea9:f4ff:fe17:87dc]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 2sm800828pdp.0.2015.02.20.12.54.47 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:54:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54E79F14.6020501@rcbowen.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:54:44 -0800 From: Rich Bowen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [IDEA] ASF "Certifications" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 02/20/2015 12:26 PM, jay vyas wrote: > Hi apache. Just had a thought. > > > *** Should/Could the ASF have its own project managed develoepr > certification program (for "industry professionals") ? *** > > In apache projects, like hadoop, for example, we see lots of certifications > come up, which are mostly a bunch of multiple choice questions, or a way to > get you to take their class, and so on. > > - After all, we already have people qualified to be mentors, so nobody > would dispute the distinction of such a certification. > > - I see alot of companies doing these certifications for apache projects > (i.e. like hadoop for example, but there are others). The programs seem to > be valuable both to consumers (learn new skills) and to companies (Spread > mindshare) alike. > > *** example *** > On Apache BigTop, I think we could design a great big data certification, > which would help grow the project, increase commitership, and also increase > the back flow of collaboration from companies as well. I think alot of > other projects (for example, even the Apache HTTP server, Derby, CTakes, > and so on). Traditionally, the answer to this question is that the Foundation strongly encourages third-parties to build certification programs around Apache technologies, but that the Foundation itself doesn't want to get into that line of business. There have been efforts to have community-written tests, and they have all bombed. This seems like something that a motivated company is likely to have more success with. -- Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon