Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 14F6D17715 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 14:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 99049 invoked by uid 500); 18 Feb 2015 14:17:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 98795 invoked by uid 500); 18 Feb 2015 14:17:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 98782 invoked by uid 99); 18 Feb 2015 14:17:11 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 14:17:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: error (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.216.180] (HELO mail-qc0-f180.google.com) (209.85.216.180) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 14:17:06 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id s11so956224qcv.11 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:16:25 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nx8722zHhdvmQKz5k5zbL8zqSZTGWSXmLSWZ3IPiljo=; b=JrZn8io6cxsyGKTRc7M8D9KGtXg0fDYe/JWV/w4QHIsZK90aXUBcikKKIR/h5hWq7S S/EmJ/1g/N0fmfX+aSa5tKgVYJZXyiEjKIDNL8PwKwcBC3dDe7Ix0YXldtCRtykx7sTV JC7rHHFXic8K6vj/ex65/f7WR0B5rrCL8zBJZQaLC6iJDmF7gfYNRJDxWZKZwM1HNvpd GUgMT/gPAbOaxfB1HB+6N60nj/H2ZkJeI5Pk0lCafpgcq2eA7hX71n5XvbAFbeRpVHPS 63GFuNI73wok+DUpFjNxC2d0fSRrQ0mb5BvvswAnsy6tlDFUW3v1H+ZRqKWNYkmvgErp uM+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl/q/dOFNNOFyTJ7ZEuM99phHc2+AGSCxElyzmwQ7fhBRgBCpSMmN0vlD/dwHvc0oXaZWsg X-Received: by 10.140.232.149 with SMTP id d143mr639565qhc.82.1424268985408; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-74-138-23-246.swo.res.rr.com. [74.138.23.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g51sm17841293qgf.18.2015.02.18.06.16.23 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:16:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54E49EB5.30904@rcbowen.com> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:16:21 -0500 From: Rich Bowen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev Subject: [ApacheCon] Keeping notes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org As we go through this process again and make a lot of the same mistakes I made the last two times, I'm trying really hard to keep notes so that when I hand this over to someone else, they don't have to figure it out all over again. I'm sure that Melissa will help me with this, but if there's something that has worked well, please put it in this thread. Please do not make this a bitchfest, or even a feature request list for the CFP system. let's pretend, for the moment, that the CFP system won't change for next time, and that we need to keep doing what we're doing now. So, ideally, we should start these things NOW for EU 2015. * Identify track chairs, and their responsibilities, earlier * Share the schedule draft with them as soon as there's even a wireframe, so that folks have an idea what we're working with * Share the main CFP spreadsheet with them earlier, so that people can "claim" talks for their track. * Keep a list of likely tracks BEFORE the event, rather than trying to sweep stuff into piles after the fact. Put this information into the CFP. Identify projects that go with each track. Spam these projects' dev lists mercilessly throughout the CFP period. * Clearly explain the role of the ASF vs the role of the LF. We are responsible for content, and only content, LF is responsible for everything else, and we need to stay out of their way and let them run a show. This is hard for us, as we are tinkerers by nature, and so we need to keep repeating this. What have I forgotten? -- Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon