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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Apache Way talks
Date Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:42:56 GMT
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On 16 February 2015 at 17:21, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:

> I agree Joe,
>
> We only have a very few immutable rules. Everything else is policy. As
> long as policy don't break those immutable rules the they can shift and
> change as much as they need to in order to empower individual project
> communities.
>
> Coincidentally I wrote a presentation on this very topic last night. I'll
> look to share it once it has been delivered, but too late for me to add to
> the CFP.
>
I agree with you both.....only being a relative new member, it is often
quite hard to see what is official policy and what is just the opinion of
some members.

The rules are clear, and in my opinion,  protect our values.

Maybe we are back in another old discussion, that some of our policies are
not defined, but merely "we use to do".

rgds
jan I.


>
>
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Joe Brockmeier<mailto:jzb@zonker.net>
> Sent: ‎2/‎16/‎2015 8:01 AM
> To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Apache Way talks
>
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015, at 01:38 PM, jan i wrote:
> > I have a feeling that we are standing at a crossroad where  many
> > questions like Directd funding, ApacheCON, entry ticket to ASF
> (Incubator/pTLP)
> > tear us apart, and I believe it is high time the members of ASF take a
> stand
> > (whatever it may be), and show we are ONE united in the APACHE WAY.
>
> I'm not sure directed funding, handling ApacheCon, etc. are immutable or
> define The Apache Way.
>
> We can allow (or not) directed funding and still practice community over
> code, merit, openness, etc.
>
> The fact that a large and diverse membership do not agree on these
> issues need not "tear us apart" if we can discuss and resolve issues
> without animosity. If we agree that "community over code" is one of the
> defining aspects of Apache, surely we can also agree that the community
> is also more important than folks having their way over whether or not
> Apache allows (or experiments with) directed funding or other models of
> promoting/sustaining projects and their infrastructure.
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>

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