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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed
Date Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:27:03 GMT
On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 02/03/2015 04:11 AM, jan i wrote:
>
>> We should really make that clear to people, I strongly believe the general
>> opinion is  non-project talks are not welcome. I base this on the fact
>> that
>> a number of talks for Denver and Budapest was rejected for being too
>> company like.
>>
>> When I started helping a year ago, I had ideas about having 2 tracks (or
>> the talks scattered around)
>> - User (including companies) experiences with ASF projects
>> - Companies presenting solutions based on ASF projects
>>
>> I quickly learned that that was not the purpose of ApacheCON, I am very
>> trilled if that is the way we want to go because that is a real way to get
>> AC to grow again.
>>
>
> For several years, we had a strong business track, where the implications
> of The Apache Way to business (legal, marketing, planning, community,
> whatever) were discussed. This just took someone to step up and make it
> happen.
>
> If someone comes to me tomorrow with a business track, complete with
> content, we'll schedule it. Sally used to handle this, and with her
> contacts was able to provide really strong content. There was indeed
> resistance to this, because it's "not about Apache projects", but that is
> very open to interpretation, and, in the end, it strengthened the community
> as a whole.


Once we get ACNA scheduled I will talk with Sally and also come  with ideas
for early (before/during CFP) press releases for ACEU.

I am very convinced that a business track, will sell more tickets and maybe
also attract some new sponsors.

rgds
jan i

>
> But, we can't schedule talks that aren't submitted.
>
>
>
>> LF cannot market this message alone, they need clear public statements
>> from
>> us, that we want companies to come and present. I am convinced that if we
>> (e.g. for ACEU) make early press releases about wanting companies to talk,
>> tell it to LF, then we will be a lot more successful.
>>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>> If we just relax, and hope LF can lift that alone we will fail and keep
>> telling each other how great projects we have ( which happens to be the
>> truth, but maybe not the whole truth).
>>
>
> Yep. If we keep talking to just ourselves, we'll ... keep talking to just
> ourselves.
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>


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