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From Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed
Date Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:19:25 GMT
That might be an idea to explore....

But remember, you need to investigate the potential before you can allocate
square meters. And auctioning only works when demand is higher than supply.
There are always capacity limits.

Best regards

Pierre Smits

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On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org> wrote:

> Regarding "commercial" or "advertising" presentations; Why should we reject
> these outright? Why not allocate a track for corporations to present
> whatever they like, in 20, 30 or 60 min blocks? And auction out those
> slots. Either there is a market, or there is not... And/or combine them
> with on-site sponsorship programs, of booths, give-aways and so on.
> Stallman wouldn't do this, but we are said to be business-friendly, are we
> not?
>
> Cheers
> Niclas
>
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:27 PM, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 02/03/2015 04:11 AM, jan i wrote:
> > >
> > >> We should really make that clear to people, I strongly believe the
> > general
> > >> opinion is  non-project talks are not welcome. I base this on the fact
> > >> that
> > >> a number of talks for Denver and Budapest was rejected for being too
> > >> company like.
> > >>
> > >> When I started helping a year ago, I had ideas about having 2 tracks
> (or
> > >> the talks scattered around)
> > >> - User (including companies) experiences with ASF projects
> > >> - Companies presenting solutions based on ASF projects
> > >>
> > >> I quickly learned that that was not the purpose of ApacheCON, I am
> very
> > >> trilled if that is the way we want to go because that is a real way to
> > get
> > >> AC to grow again.
> > >>
> > >
> > > For several years, we had a strong business track, where the
> implications
> > > of The Apache Way to business (legal, marketing, planning, community,
> > > whatever) were discussed. This just took someone to step up and make it
> > > happen.
> > >
> > > If someone comes to me tomorrow with a business track, complete with
> > > content, we'll schedule it. Sally used to handle this, and with her
> > > contacts was able to provide really strong content. There was indeed
> > > resistance to this, because it's "not about Apache projects", but that
> is
> > > very open to interpretation, and, in the end, it strengthened the
> > community
> > > as a whole.
> >
> >
> > Once we get ACNA scheduled I will talk with Sally and also come  with
> ideas
> > for early (before/during CFP) press releases for ACEU.
> >
> > I am very convinced that a business track, will sell more tickets and
> maybe
> > also attract some new sponsors.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan i
> >
> > >
> > > But, we can't schedule talks that aren't submitted.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> LF cannot market this message alone, they need clear public statements
> > >> from
> > >> us, that we want companies to come and present. I am convinced that if
> > we
> > >> (e.g. for ACEU) make early press releases about wanting companies to
> > talk,
> > >> tell it to LF, then we will be a lot more successful.
> > >>
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> If we just relax, and hope LF can lift that alone we will fail and
> keep
> > >> telling each other how great projects we have ( which happens to be
> the
> > >> truth, but maybe not the whole truth).
> > >>
> > >
> > > Yep. If we keep talking to just ourselves, we'll ... keep talking to
> just
> > > ourselves.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> > > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java
>

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