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From jay vyas <jayunit100.apa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [IDEA] ASF "Certifications"
Date Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:54:02 GMT
makes perfect sense.  glad to know its been experimented with :)

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:

> +1 to What Rich says
>
> Community managed examinations are unlikely to be adequately maintained.
>
> However, someone making a living out of it whilst also respecting our
> marks helps to grow the community. We should leave that space open for
> people with the time and skills.
>
> Ross
>
> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbowen@rcbowen.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 12:55 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [IDEA] ASF "Certifications"
>
>
>
> On 02/20/2015 12:26 PM, jay vyas wrote:
> > Hi apache. Just had a thought.
> >
> >
> > *** Should/Could the ASF  have its own project managed develoepr
> > certification program (for "industry professionals") ? ***
> >
> > In apache projects, like hadoop, for example, we see lots of
> > certifications come up, which are mostly a bunch of multiple choice
> > questions, or a way to get you to take their class, and so on.
> >
> > - After all, we already have people qualified to be mentors, so nobody
> > would dispute the distinction of such a certification.
> >
> > - I see alot of companies doing these certifications for apache
> > projects (i.e. like hadoop for example, but there are others).  The
> > programs seem to be valuable both to consumers (learn new skills) and
> > to companies (Spread
> > mindshare) alike.
> >
> > *** example ***
> > On Apache BigTop, I think we could design a great big data
> > certification, which would help grow the project, increase
> > commitership, and also increase the back flow of collaboration from
> > companies as well.  I think alot of other projects (for example, even
> > the Apache HTTP server, Derby, CTakes, and so on).
>
>
>
> Traditionally, the answer to this question is that the Foundation strongly
> encourages third-parties to build certification programs around Apache
> technologies, but that the Foundation itself doesn't want to get into that
> line of business.
>
> There have been efforts to have community-written tests, and they have all
> bombed. This seems like something that a motivated company is likely to
> have more success with.
>
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ -
> @apachecon
>



-- 
jay vyas

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