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From "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ross.Gard...@microsoft.com>
Subject RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed
Date Wed, 04 Feb 2015 16:21:46 GMT
Sally is not part of the ACNA process. Nobody in the ASF is. This is an LF event.

We can (and should) make recommendations to LF but we are are not to take on responsibility
for these things. That takes us back to where we were with ConCom.

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From: jan i<mailto:jani@apache.org>
Sent: ‎2/‎4/‎2015 6:27 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
Subject: Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 02/03/2015 04:11 AM, jan i wrote:
>
>> We should really make that clear to people, I strongly believe the general
>> opinion is  non-project talks are not welcome. I base this on the fact
>> that
>> a number of talks for Denver and Budapest was rejected for being too
>> company like.
>>
>> When I started helping a year ago, I had ideas about having 2 tracks (or
>> the talks scattered around)
>> - User (including companies) experiences with ASF projects
>> - Companies presenting solutions based on ASF projects
>>
>> I quickly learned that that was not the purpose of ApacheCON, I am very
>> trilled if that is the way we want to go because that is a real way to get
>> AC to grow again.
>>
>
> For several years, we had a strong business track, where the implications
> of The Apache Way to business (legal, marketing, planning, community,
> whatever) were discussed. This just took someone to step up and make it
> happen.
>
> If someone comes to me tomorrow with a business track, complete with
> content, we'll schedule it. Sally used to handle this, and with her
> contacts was able to provide really strong content. There was indeed
> resistance to this, because it's "not about Apache projects", but that is
> very open to interpretation, and, in the end, it strengthened the community
> as a whole.


Once we get ACNA scheduled I will talk with Sally and also come  with ideas
for early (before/during CFP) press releases for ACEU.

I am very convinced that a business track, will sell more tickets and maybe
also attract some new sponsors.

rgds
jan i

>
> But, we can't schedule talks that aren't submitted.
>
>
>
>> LF cannot market this message alone, they need clear public statements
>> from
>> us, that we want companies to come and present. I am convinced that if we
>> (e.g. for ACEU) make early press releases about wanting companies to talk,
>> tell it to LF, then we will be a lot more successful.
>>
>
> +1
>
>
>
>> If we just relax, and hope LF can lift that alone we will fail and keep
>> telling each other how great projects we have ( which happens to be the
>> truth, but maybe not the whole truth).
>>
>
> Yep. If we keep talking to just ourselves, we'll ... keep talking to just
> ourselves.
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>


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