Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 662E6107CC for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 52064 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jan 2015 20:54:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 51869 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jan 2015 20:54:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 51857 invoked by uid 99); 19 Jan 2015 20:54:08 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:54:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: error (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.192.47] (HELO mail-qg0-f47.google.com) (209.85.192.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:53:43 +0000 Received: by mail-qg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id j5so13306642qga.6 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 12:53:21 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QfIm2tvrfqdzAYo6e5DwzRTAhTTb5wL1bS2c61lInJo=; b=Hii32lk4HOupKXqUwFtHtrnvt1rbDC5Lx0NcyPEvjG3FU5ntDx+4soCRqJKuEgBvhO Sc7cAP3mh4oe/Ximzpha6pum54jLbvF8GybQ1c+uQYghCIOWxr9zrwEFlPG855CtPCb+ Tr4r08fqHMuNSrRybkSxSmfyNk/J3kPteC+QGyFhyIYoSz7tFEZZ3A/+OLT89j59nZSL yoU3XyHFTVKFMIwMmsppyR8wb3IjOviK/1QC9XaLUk1yW9P+wV0S5XXztt3Aq8joX3ZF i0Desp681QZb8Ia4/qaZCIyq/qmP3W2UNUprQOEzJGYTOmRgm4B7QBuTxabEvyU4NSRf yNyA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnKeZsVMqDARY8ibUnN3jHOGe7U2rxa+oec1cPMggbRSb+mdNxZC8/pjcdW8NXTlUcMCxo1 X-Received: by 10.224.4.133 with SMTP id 5mr42295985qar.37.1421700801067; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 12:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-74-138-17-157.swo.res.rr.com. [74.138.17.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h6sm13267729qgh.32.2015.01.19.12.53.19 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Jan 2015 12:53:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54BD6EBC.5060101@rcbowen.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:53:16 -0500 From: Rich Bowen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s? References: ,<54BD147D.8020807@rcbowen.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 01/19/2015 10:59 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Sounds promising, but everything showed as inactive, with no traffic on the demo link provided. > > The concept, as described, is good, I like Google groups because they are both a mailing list and a forum. If HyperKitty is something like that then it might be a good option. I'm assuming it continues to use standards based formats - unless I can keep the archives on my machine, so that I can work while offline, I'm against any such solution (like Bertrand says this very hard rule is limited to dev work, but like David said, we already have plenty of projects using other solutions for other communications). > > > I'd be -1 Hmm. Looks like the demo is offline right now. It's a front-end to the mailman archive tool, complete with search and whatnot, but also acts as a posting interface, so that you can drop in and post to a list without subscribing and downloading all of the archives. The actual mailing list is still an actual mailing list. It's just that the horrible old mailman web interface - eg this kind of thing - https://www.redhat.com/archives/rdo-list/ - is now a full-function forum that people can use without being subscribed to the mailing list. That is, if you want to keep treating the mailing list like a mailing list, you can be blissfully unaware that there even is a web interface. Feel free to keep your own personal archives, download mboxes, whatever you like, if that's how you roll. -- Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon