Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EB9F10D0B for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 17:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26786 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jan 2015 17:53:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 26569 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jan 2015 17:53:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 26552 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jan 2015 17:53:32 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 17:53:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of vincent@keunen.net designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.54] (HELO mail-wg0-f54.google.com) (74.125.82.54) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 17:53:28 +0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id z12so11952471wgg.41 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:53:06 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; bh=QAIjtWCdC1g0T5Cw/Rjh9VMLrtepq1h/W5geOLwMC9E=; b=JSu1+2C8qOFwDJ9pY5nXB2E0ItvAc6f6+LE3oTVImOJS7qjirDfj86V4anF+FANURq tkzXUXVdYymcdbyuurFS1wu/hy89Y5ZFmd9w3h5fIw88txVsrkVwXUGwT7fuB/sEpq+8 DsQYcqXeFKiAL03hK1MBvhIq6KehNIGTN6wAuB2mFUT4CiF5E8OZ356MG1nXn5QtebbR 3Ce3ZiHGQMgAft2PR91CcqafXzYtd8jtI0d0UxLLo9YXyf5zXLYs0vCppsexjFOzgVqi j5qc/XfKu++2TdT0dtlMBQd7PCIPqcIrLL2GerheRCiIHCS3nEpMxRKO+9G1rEPCDumq c+Cw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl6E+XYY29d12pBY9q/5ZUReTf9PWxnTTDLAo3usftq9+90bqlE5TfyO37d/zNgEK/nT+jV X-Received: by 10.194.9.4 with SMTP id v4mr27977389wja.115.1420566786488; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ViKe-MacBook-Air-2014.local ([85.26.51.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fp2sm14804162wib.8.2015.01.06.09.53.05 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:53:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54AC2101.8030501@keunen.net> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 18:53:05 +0100 From: Vincent Keunen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: A maturity model for Apache projects References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050908090800080800000805" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --------------050908090800080800000805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good idea. I would just remove the "only" from "Releases: source code only". Maybe say "Releases: source code at the minimum" ? It's not a problem to have some projects also release binaries, is it? Shouldn't there be also something about a minimum documentation? Not necessarily doc on source code, but doc on the project (minimal web site,...)? I can also confirm that Bertrand was talking about this to me at Budapest. So "ages >= 2 months". :-) Vincent On 2015-01-06 18:28, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > Creating such a model has been on my todo list for ages, and in a > related discussion on board@ people seem to agree that having this can > be useful. > > So let's start - here's my rough initial list of items: > > Code: open, discoverable, fully public history, documented provenance > Quality: security, backwards compatibility, etc > Contributions: welcome from anyone based on technical quality > License: Apache License, dependencies must not put additional restrictions > Community: inclusive, meritocratic, no dictators, clear documented path to entry > Discussions and decisions: asynchronous, in a single central place, archived > Decision making: consensus, votes if needed, technical vetoes in the worst case > Independence: from any corporate or organizational influence > Releases: source code only, notices, long-lived release format > > Related efforts, inspiration: > > http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/wp/2014/12/11/open-or-fauxpen-use-the-oss-watch-openness-rating-tool-to-find-out/ > > http://rfc.zeromq.org/spec:16 > > -Bertrand -- VK private signature Vincent Keunen --------------050908090800080800000805--