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From Alex Harui <>
Subject Re: overhaul proposal
Date Thu, 15 Jan 2015 18:06:49 GMT

On 1/15/15, 9:46 AM, "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)"
<> wrote:

>Where are you seeing "discouragement of pilot projects"?

In the tone and content of the responses on this thread, including this
one where it feels to me you are again using the maintenance and training
costs to make it seem highly unlikely that any pilot program would ever be
accepted.  I understand we are using money from donors and have to be
somewhat conservative, but I don’t know if it really serves the mission of
the ASF to be one of the more conservative customers our projects will

IMO, it would be much more encouraging to say “I don’t know much about
OFBiz but if you can find volunteers to put together a pilot program and
show us that it is easy to learn and use and will save us time and money,
we’ll give you an Azure VM to get started.”  How easy something is to
learn is often biased by whether that person is incentivized to learn or


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