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From jan i <j...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?
Date Sun, 18 Jan 2015 13:18:35 GMT
Hi.

I donĀ“t like github/gitlab but agree it has advantages and disadvantages to
mailing lists.
One of the biggest and most important disadvantage is that not all projects
use git and even less use github
(even though admitted the number is climbing).

I too find mailing lists outdated. Personally I favor forums, that offers
the same as a mailing list,
but do not require that I keep large archive on my computer just to be able
to reply (a better version
of markmail where I could reply, would really help here).

I do think it is important that we keep the history, I have often searched
in the archives for old discussions,
but a forum offers that too.

I would any day skip mailing lists, for a media that offers:
- online archives, which allows us to send mails without breaking threads
- is independent of any version control system (we discuss a lot of things
not related to sources)
- can replace all mailing list, focus here is on the private lists and
foundation lists.

Going away from mailing lists, would also mean not spending bandwidth on
sending tons of email every day, might make some of the other services
faster.

rgds
jan i

On 18 January 2015 at 13:53, Claude Warren <claude@xenei.com> wrote:

> I prefer the mailing list because it pushes new concepts to me.  Git and
> such requires that I work harder to get the information.  Most of the
> Apache mailing lists have a high signal to noise ratio.  And even the
> signals I am not interested in don't take that long to dispose of.
>
> Claude
>
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Benedikt Ritter <britter@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > over at the Apache Commons Project, we have a long discussion about our
> > mailing lists. Are they to noisy? Should they be splitted up into
> sublists?
> > Should individual components go TLP?
> > IMHO Ben McCann summed up the core problem pretty well [1]. Mailing lists
> > are simply a outdated tool from the 90s. They can not compete with tools
> > like github/gitlab that integrate the code with the possibility to do
> code
> > reviews, disucssions and bugtracking.
> >
> > Now I'm curious: Does anybody here really like the use of mailing lists?
> Or
> > do we all simply go through the struggle of setting up filters etc. just
> > because this is the way it has always been?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Benedikt
> >
> > [1] http://markmail.org/message/iizay3mmf2msvaf2
> >
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> >
>
>
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