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From Bertrand Delacretaz <>
Subject Re: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?
Date Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:28:25 GMT
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Benedikt Ritter <> wrote:
> ...I hadn't heard about mailing lists. It always
> felt clumsy to me. I know github and twitter....

The one rule that I don't want to change at Apache is that all
important discussions and all decisions of a project have to happen on
the project's dev mailing list. Without this it's impossible to keep
the oversight on our projects (which is part of the Board of
Director's mission) and people who join projects would first have to
find out where the discussions happen, and if they're scattered it
takes ages for someone to get up to speed with how a project

That's only the dev list however - if projects want to use different
tools for supporting their users that's perfectly possible.There are
far superior systems today for questions and answers (as opposed to
open discussions), like the stack overflow model. IIUC the problem
with is that they own whatever people write
there, and with our long-term vision we want to own our content.
Creating a clone of that at Apache sounds like a cool challenge for a
bright 29-years old, don't you think? ;-)

Using large mailing lists requires some effort, I wrote a blog post
about this a while ago, at
- like any tool, you need to tame them to be efficient.

In summary, I would be opposed to relaxing the "if it didn't happen on
the dev list it didn't happen" rules for important projects
discussions and for project decisions, but our projects have lots of
freedom for everything else.

-Bertrand (BTW I'm 52 and I do use Twitter and those other things...a bit)

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