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From Pierre Smits <>
Subject Re: overhaul proposal
Date Wed, 14 Jan 2015 22:09:43 GMT
Like some have expressed in earlier messages in this thread this endeavour
could take up some time. Especially when requirements are not clear.

And let's not forget, the OFBiz community volunteers their effort to get to
a better OFBiz product. They have the tools in place for that. If the ASF
wants something on top of that from the OFBIz community it needs to be
asked there (their mailing lists). Not here. Even if it is assistance with
prototyping a Proof of Concept.

Apart from that, as the building blocks of OFBiz don't use exotic
constructs (it is java, xml, ftl, groovy, when talking languages) I surmise
an ASF Azure box can suffice. If concessions regarding data storage are
acceptable (integrated derby in stead of external RDBMS) for such a PoC..

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Alex Harui <> wrote:

> I’m way outside my area of knowledge, but is there anything stopping the
> OFBiz community from getting an ASF Azure box and trying to prototype
> something?
> -Alex
> On 1/14/15, 10:46 AM, "Pierre Smits" <> wrote:
> >You are correct. And I am aware that budgets are limitied. But I don't
> >what
> >the budget will be nor decide where the money of the ASF flows. I can only
> >ask for some of it regarding a project. And even then, I won't consider
> >doing so for something that could be perceived as a pet project of Pierre
> >Smits. If ASF offices do want an OFBiz implementation to work with, maybe
> >they should go ahead and involve both INFRA and the OFBiz community.
> >
> >I understand the concerns. I myself have them as well when dealing with
> >volunteer organisations. But - and apparently - the ASF has this solved
> >regarding the INFRA office. The same could be worked out for the other
> >solutions and/or services it needs to have in place.
> >
> >You just need to ask the right questions to the right people.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Pierre Smits
> >
> >*ORRTIZ.COM <>*
> >Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> >Based Manufacturing, Professional
> >Services and Retail & Trade
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Maintaining servers costs money. Money has to come from somewhere and
> >>has
> >> to be budgeted. We can't just drop a new demand on infra without
> >>discussing
> >> it with them and ensuring they have the capacity.
> >>
> >> In terms of maintenance of the result Im thinking who makes the changes
> >>we
> >> need as requirements change over time? Somebody needs to be responsible
> >>for
> >> that and we need to be sure it is sustainable. The easier it is to
> >>maintain
> >> the easier it is to find someone willing to do it.
> >>
> >> As for my suggestion for OfBiz to be applied to operational area of the
> >> foundation I said "currently unstructured" that is the information is in
> >> ad-hoc spreadsheets and mailing lists.  OfBiz is, as far as I'm aware,
> >> designed for the kinds of functions I listed.
> >>
> >> Sent from my Windows Phone
> >>
> >>

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