Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF5FE1020D for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 00:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65461 invoked by uid 500); 19 Nov 2014 00:11:32 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 65230 invoked by uid 500); 19 Nov 2014 00:11:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 65218 invoked by uid 99); 19 Nov 2014 00:11:32 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 00:11:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: softfail (nike.apache.org: transitioning domain of kay.schenk@gmail.com does not designate 216.109.115.169 as permitted sender) Received: from [216.109.115.169] (HELO nm23-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com) (216.109.115.169) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 00:11:06 +0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=bC4anjR2jhRJHqqJHQt3F2G0Sd4BGC3jCovEss0u9rVFp1sAZnF817MGfxG25S3i0toikC+oQDuzNCv2242MiqImN4P++7MygXC+/t8lqrfWXpBs1X79WWkx3vjQQ8kvc7E7ML/01xw8+mZUB/y603e7B8nicKTumAfesmLDDdLqW8r+CbBKE6ZeDCLiC6IieeR2lr0/rNr2t2nG1zC7Y5f1wsFaIdzcnVR2xpPt3swgxABWz+5jyHM2gt3s+gGNTj3bgOJUiGXpCQMMX2lXQGbo4vlG94Tfcqz1kS9AhFiGgqm8lTupUuSMHWF1w9+dCdP8M5kaVtvzkS/Mm07ubQ==; Received: from [66.196.81.164] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2014 00:08:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.100] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2014 00:08:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2014 00:08:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 161677.15776.bm@smtp120.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: OomC0q0VM1nan1728RWX8uLpXN7RgcpxL9YiubHueYtfKeY Qvnxj.59f8w7ExUOUZ8lzKjvxUMk_xHhn8zhyR.1j3bnox81VxAY3qMguXTA qyqJyuuraD3e5wt0jbSluoUQmKgggmJWCpdJWtwbYjvqe4YJ_lDWeJxAGYWy D0E1rJpv4OHVY2FX2_DoRdn7ppihJaTBg3ozF_uOnVOa_Yejgysfr8p92HdT 1IDVG.Qx_ORdSNzx4DAoMQNZufWOXpUVKINcASjvnnAy_0CqV0daHlGtb2ZZ RslT4fhKxaCiEkaTkEzisfgILHiwJ6wZ240y0UGiV4ualyNfNs.aoUMy8Ds. 9fxFk4Olr3l6XLTyXF.gZL2QCR2Tm_dXl0XcAQmd1HwNkbj2fXL246kcwkxm HGi8MBPubRg81Ja38iQqtl0N7ubcuG7yHFg0OizJFKOTqLx3JV.im9129TxC frfCe7ytj_FSz_lEsbHYW2v9DpKrK6oRJEYswS3AYZinpiaTyIP3VgsAPliz YCBE.DDpXeh.09NzVSgnFDzVAe7gfY27URyy2j5BQ7Prbts0mruamZGZGGZF LoXAyCl_UWzrbEMJYLdSvPmhvioHQll97t5WC7LO2HtV37ML2nTrF5F7kYLd yjk5T5HTJtI_w52pDVX6_os26sY1k0_SIeGPUh9WUSGpOAd1EHsKDHM.nahg 5OftrUJScsIp1X0AZx6jpnS.HHRIZdUfBAnTXMEAQ3l0M4QbIfvwdBnNQZGD wMApi_1N5sFj8rmYN48Ffqa3O_w-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: dHt73eiswBAYjuZ6oL.TTjbe.KQkAIve Message-ID: <546BDF77.50700@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:08:23 -0800 From: Kay Schenk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Code of conduct References: <546B4F6B.70301@rcbowen.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 11/18/2014 09:46 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Christopher wrote: > >> At first glance, a big +1. This is one of the better Code of Conduct >> policies that I've seen. >> >> >> -- >> Christopher L Tubbs II >> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii >> >> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> >>> As many of you are no doubt aware, we have had on our website, for at >>> least 8 years, and, I think probably much longer, "Code of conduct, >> coming >>> soon!" Long enough, in fact, that I had completely forgotten about it. >>> >>> It was brought to my attention this morning, and I decided, unilaterally, >>> that it was appropriate for me to JFDI, and that I'd ask for forgiveness >>> rather than permission. >>> >>> I have stolen, wholesale, the code of conduct of the CouchDB project [1] >>> which has discussed this extensively, and borrowed heavily from other >>> communities that have discussed it extensively. So this isn't original >>> content, but, rather, standing on the shoulders of giants. >>> >>> I honestly can't figure out why we didn't just do this years ago, other >>> than expecting that someone else would. >>> >>> So, without further ado: http://www.apache.org/ >>> foundation/policies/conduct.html >>> >>> Patches welcome. >> > > I'd like a section like the following (Debian Code of Conduct) to be added: > > "Serious or persistent offenders will be temporarily or permanently > banned from communicating through Debian's systems. Complaints should be > made (in private) to the administrators of the Debian communication > forum in question. To find contact information for these administrators, > please see [the page on Debian's organizational > structure](https://www.debian.org/intro/organization)" > > In absence of such a notice people might not understand what happen if > they do not play by the rules. > > Roberto > Super that we now have an ASF-wide policy on this! and +1 on Roberto's suggestion. > > > >>> >>> I've also asked Noah Slater, who was very instrumental in crafting that >>> document, to speak up here, so that: >>> >>> * Patches to one document will propagate to the other, where appropriate >>> * ComDev can have a boilerplate document that we can recommend that ASF >>> projects that don't have such a code, can adopt >>> >>> Please do speak up if you have any objections to my taking this >> initiative >>> without discussion. But we've been discussing it, on and off, for many, >>> many years. >>> >>> [1] http://couchdb.apache.org/conduct.html >>> >>> -- >>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen >>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >>> >> > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star." -- Friedrich Nietzsche