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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 18:40:33 +0200
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Subject: Re: The ASF and Apache OFBiz (was: Re: ASF Status website and project
 health reporting)
From: Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com>
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Cc: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org>
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Ross,

As far as I can tell, only Rich has contacted the community of the OFBiz
project regarding management of fundraising activities.  I assume you that
is what you meant, not contracted.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Note, we have recently been discussing how OfBiz can help with management
> of the fundraising activities. Melissa (our EA) is in contract with the
> project. It seems to me that this would be the simplest starting point (a=
nd
> isn't public facing, so less of a design overhead).
>
> Other than that, as Shane says, anything that does happen needs to happen
> with the infra team on board.
>
> Thanks Ross
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Shane Curcuru<mailto:asf@shanecurcuru.org>
> Sent: =E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E15/=E2=80=8E2014 4:57 AM
> To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
> Cc: user@ofbiz.apache.org<mailto:user@ofbiz.apache.org>; Jacques Le
> Roux<mailto:jacques.le.roux@les7arts.com>
> Subject: Re: The ASF and Apache OFBiz (was: Re: ASF Status website and
> project health reporting)
>
> The best place to start this discussion in terms of needs is over on the
> dev@community mailing list - no need to include folks individually
> unless they ask.
>
> There are several different issues to work on:
>
> - Need and design: what does the ASF or some projects actually need, and
> how could we better present a design that would be easier to use and
> maintain?  Note also that projects use a wide variety of site generation
> and maintenance tools, and to get better adoption any new tool needs to
> fit easily into existing Forrest, Maven, or other tools that various
> projects use (i.e., adoption on a per-project level, like for
> project.a.o/mailinglist pages, would be up to each project)
>
> - Work: Who is actually going to provide the code, take feedback from
> various parties, and help maintain any new solution?  This is where
> having an iterative design is important, because many of these efforts
> start with great new volunteers, but never get finished or fully
> deployed when the rest of the world interferes with people's dayjobs.
>
> - Code: Any apache.org hosted solution needs to be maintained by the
> infra team.  In particular, infra is moving to centralize all the
> per-person data into our custom LDAP scheme, which is being expanded to
> include PMC membership and plenty of other data.  Some info is on the blo=
g:
>
>   https://blogs.apache.org/infra/tags/ldap
>   https://id.apache.org/
>
> There's been a lot of updates to how the core LDAP is being used and is
> exposed on http or https endpoints in the past year, so it would be
> useful to get a better overview of what the core people/projects data is
> available already.
>
> - Shane
>
> On 10/13/14 9:19 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> > Hi Gabriella,
> >
> > I have been pondering a bit on how Apache OFBiz could support The ASF a=
s
> > the unified front end regarding:
> >
> >   * subscribing to and unsubscribing from mailing lists of projects and
> >     offices
> >   * profiling the Projects, Corporate Officers, ASF Members, Vice
> >     Presidents, PMC Members, Committers, Contributors and Offices
> >   * the invitation processes regarding new ASF Members, PMC Members and
> >     Committers
> >   * the 'Change of Guard' process regarding Board Members, Office and
> >     Project VPs
> >
> > Based on some demo data I have mocked up how this could look like and
> > have created a Powerpoint to show and explain this a bit.
> > In the attached PDF you can get a feel of some screenshots. In the note=
s
> > of each slide you'll find a short description.
> >
> > If you would like to investigate and/or pursue the possibilities
> > further, feel free to contact me to exchange ideas, viewpoints, etc. If
> > you have trouble accessing the attached file please send me a note.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
> > Services & Solutions for Cloud-
> > Based Manufacturing, Professional
> > Services and Retail & Trade
> > http://www.orrtiz.com <http://www.orrtiz.com/>
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Gabriela Gibson
> > <gabriela.gibson@gmail.com <mailto:gabriela.gibson@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Pierre Smits
> >     <pierre.smits@gmail.com <mailto:pierre.smits@gmail.com>>
> >     wrote:
> >
> >     > Hi,
> >     >
> >     > Recently we exchanged some thoughts (twitter and otherwise)
> regarding the
> >     > status of Apache top level projects and about how the reporting b=
y
> the ASF
> >     > to the projects and the wider communities could be improved.
> >     >
> >     > Currently the status pages at http://status.apache.org regarding
> project
> >     > health (commit activity and mailing lists) don't allow drill down
> into
> >     > individual projects. Is it achievable to get this kind of
> functionality?
> >     >
> >     > Can we (as the ASF) also provide insights in number of people
> joining and
> >     > leaving the mailing lists of the projects and show what the
> trending topics
> >     > over the periods?
> >     > But also reporting on average depth and width of mailing list
> threads?
> >     >
> >     > I do believe that these kind of insights will help monitoring
> project
> >     > health and investigate where projects can improve regarding
> community
> >     > building.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > I'm not so sure that mailing list subscription counts are very
> >     representative -- I recently unsubscribed from almost every forum I
> had
> >     ever joined because classification by labelling in gmail is a hit
> >     and miss,
> >     and the deluge of mails that were incorrectly sorted was too much.
> >
> >     Instead, I use the web interfaces for those forums now.
> >
> >     So, I would like to see the mailing list web interface be improved:
> >
> >     Better thread navigation; and the ability to 'one-click
> >     (un)subscribe' to a
> >     given thread or a watch for keywords in the subject(subject to bein=
g
> >     logged
> >     in).  Being able to choose a digest or continuous format on a
> per-case
> >     basis would also be nice.
> >
> >     If that could be done, collected statistics about participation
> would be
> >     far more reliable and informative.
> >
> >     G
> >     --
> >     Visit my Coding Diary: http://gabriela-gibson.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
>
>

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