Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 941B111E4E for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 19:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97602 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2014 19:23:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 97423 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jul 2014 19:23:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 97408 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jul 2014 19:23:52 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 19:23:52 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of rgardler@opendirective.com designates 209.85.215.52 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.52] (HELO mail-la0-f52.google.com) (209.85.215.52) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 19:23:47 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ty20so4292317lab.39 for ; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 12:23:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=opendirective.com; s=opendirective; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vEOC39KFdFrODIHEl5JEKFj8NejD+PM4mfZqK5AIYd0=; b=bnsTYyu/7xqZAob4zNm//bGydYsiMh8IbbNpPMJkb6MrMV7b8g/GrNpHGJlgEs0GRN 1l0elaBPJb04KI4dbkLu1O4kODautii4U4+h/v1X5PKs/iL50p6hCEf86LM9rsveCDGg h/4mVSvNcobR4zrGBaS/h12objH5pAljmnmyo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vEOC39KFdFrODIHEl5JEKFj8NejD+PM4mfZqK5AIYd0=; b=g06LEZ8CrJa4KzQ3CYzGuTWgQjAM7xb1ricvatIIoR6XQwd2/NchSXGtt5C6iQq+e0 61bArSLOECCHwXfz3QqJpSt0M8Xn+G7tcTUyjSA3618ExjMeYbD8+C8tuCq8XCIoi2e1 4NKnIgztR3kj10MOtX/85FeE56yc+mC6SHAF4+cf71HY+80wpOn6R/KRgdsMePYORuJF OIOnNtufoCwkIA2Agq89y4z0KdRLcrFIH3weBtSrdzwQyslRiR37ESgu2QSelwNGmW7N AQXhjxCa9Nmc/reonPdBzk9ma8fbflkyPStvsnrSIHlg8zVknSCPIlj+GfcRgiwxEaY7 9RyQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmM5bfcg7hPJ5QGvgz1602pqKqM1Z0YpNp4mj7ppN49t/Ch+5oJVUBxV1KXoXAW6eAQIln5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.37.99 with SMTP id x3mr8590253laj.55.1404847403533; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 12:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.247.106 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:23:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [90.213.160.173] Received: by 10.112.247.106 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:23:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53BC3867.1060505@apache.org> References: <53BBD077.5020403@beamartyr.net> <53BBD3C4.1020904@apache.org> <53BC3867.1060505@apache.org> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:23:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Proposing for Apache Member? From: Ross Gardler To: dev@community.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158b87c739ff204fdb38663 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --089e0158b87c739ff204fdb38663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Generally the board likes to see at least one member be part of new PMCs. It is not a requirement but it is a preference. On 8 Jul 2014 19:44, "Andrea Pescetti" wrote: > Branko =C4=8Cibej wrote: > >> I don't know where you got this, but it definitely is not true that >> every PMC chair is a member. This is not even a requirement. >> > > Sure. I became PMC chair before being voted in as a member, for example. > > It is >> possible and reasonable that an entire project community contains not a >> single ASF member, only committers. Certainly, members must be involved >> during incubation, but there's no requirement for them to stay on the >> project once it has graduated. >> > > This seems less likely. A cursory look at > http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html > seems to confirm that (almost! apparently vcl-pmc does not; but a smart > LDAP query is probably better than me at checking that) all PMCs do conta= in > at least a member. I remember that when OpenOffice graduated someone note= d > that only a couple of PMC members were already ASF members, and I assume > that the same check is done on other projects, even if it is not a formal > requirement. > > Regards, > Andrea. > --089e0158b87c739ff204fdb38663--