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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:22:35 +0200
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Subject: Re: Proposing for Apache Member?
From: jan i <jani@apache.org>
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On 8 July 2014 11:41, Rob Vesse <rvesse@dotnetrdf.org> wrote:

> Pierre
>
> Not unless one/more of those contributors is themselves a Member/Officer
> of the ASF - see Sectopn 4.1 of the Bylaws
> (http://apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html#4.1) which states the following:
>
> To be eligible for membership, a person or entity must be nominated by a
> current member of the corporation and must complete a written membership
> application in such form as shall be adopted by the Board of Directors
> from time to time
>
>
> Therefore contributors of a project can't directly, I guess they could
> talk to ASF members they know and suggest that person with the aim of
> getting a nomination but not being a member myself I'm not sure if that
> would be acceptable behaviour.  Ultimately ASF is a meritocracy and my
> personal impression based on people who I know of who've become members in
> the past couple of years is that to become a member you need to be active
> across the foundation (not just within a small part of it) for a prolonged
> period.
>
> The definition of the different roles in ASF are defined
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html

ASF Member

An * ASF member * is a person who was nominated by current members and
elected due to merit for the evolution and progress of the foundation.
Members care for the ASF itself. This is usually demonstrated through the
roots of project-related and cross-project activities. Legally, a member is
a "shareholder" of the foundation, one of the owners. They have the right
to elect the board, to stand as a candidate for the board election and to
propose a committer for membership. They also have the right to propose a
new project for incubation (we'll see later what this means). The members
coordinate their activities through their mailing list and through their
annual meeting.


A ASF Member has earned merit for foundation work, just like a PMC member
has earned merit for work within the project.

I am sure of one thing committer/PMC/asf member are all voted in due to
their personal merit and not due to recommendations. Of course to be
nominated as member, members need to know you, but that comes quite natural
when you do foundation work, similar to PMC.


> One thing worth asking is why the community you are involved in feels the
> need to have someone be elected as a Member?
>

Another question is, why not attract the attention of existing members. All
incubator projects have at least one member in their community.

I looked in people.a.o to see if I could determine the project, but I could
not find your name ? (sorry if I overlooked it).

rgds
jan I

>
> Rob
>
> On 08/07/2014 09:43, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.smits@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi All,
> >
> >Is it possible that contributors of a project can propose a community
> >member to be elected as an Apache Member?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Pierre Smits
> >
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