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From Issac Goldstand <mar...@beamartyr.net>
Subject Re: Proposing for Apache Member?
Date Tue, 08 Jul 2014 12:52:18 GMT
No, because contributors aren't proposing anything as far as the ASF is
concerned.  They're just having a discussion.

Until it comes from a member, it's not a nomination or a proposal or
anything other than a discussion.

  Issac

On 08/07/2014 15:44, Pierre Smits wrote:
> All,
> 
> Taking into consideration that nominate and propose - in general and in
> this context - mean the same and that any contributor can propose
> potentials for ASF Membership, shouldn't the by-laws of the Foundation
> reflect this?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pierre Smits
> 
> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
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> 
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, of course a community member can propose a member. As Rob says, the
>> nomination and election has to be done by the Members, but not all projects
>> have existing members acting as the eyes and ears.
>>
>> Of course, not having members in a project community shouldn't impact the
>> project since it is self-managing and membership is only a foundational
>> level thing. Nevertheless, the membership needs to be a good cross-section
>> of our project communities.
>>
>> If a community member feels someone is being overlooked a mail to
>> private@community.apache.org will reach people who can add notes to the
>> member watch list.
>>
>> This is the right list for discussing what we look for in members.
>>
>> Sent from my phone - please forgive brevity and typos
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Rob Vesse" <rvesse@dotnetrdf.org>
>> Sent: ‎7/‎8/‎2014 10:42
>> To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Proposing for Apache Member?
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>> Not unless one/more of those contributors is themselves a Member/Officer
>> of the ASF - see Sectopn 4.1 of the Bylaws
>> (http://apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html#4.1) which states the following:
>>
>> To be eligible for membership, a person or entity must be nominated by a
>> current member of the corporation and must complete a written membership
>> application in such form as shall be adopted by the Board of Directors
>> from time to time
>>
>>
>> Therefore contributors of a project can't directly, I guess they could
>> talk to ASF members they know and suggest that person with the aim of
>> getting a nomination but not being a member myself I'm not sure if that
>> would be acceptable behaviour.  Ultimately ASF is a meritocracy and my
>> personal impression based on people who I know of who've become members in
>> the past couple of years is that to become a member you need to be active
>> across the foundation (not just within a small part of it) for a prolonged
>> period.
>>
>> One thing worth asking is why the community you are involved in feels the
>> need to have someone be elected as a Member?
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On 08/07/2014 09:43, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.smits@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Is it possible that contributors of a project can propose a community
>>> member to be elected as an Apache Member?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Pierre Smits
>>>
>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud-
>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional
>>> Services and Retail & Trade
>>> http://www.orrtiz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 


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