Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0B9F1078D for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 84882 invoked by uid 500); 10 Mar 2014 19:59:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 84753 invoked by uid 500); 10 Mar 2014 19:59:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 84745 invoked by uid 99); 10 Mar 2014 19:59:01 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:59:01 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy includes SPF record at spf.trusted-forwarder.org) Received: from [209.85.216.173] (HELO mail-qc0-f173.google.com) (209.85.216.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:58:57 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id r5so8236183qcx.4 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:58:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b5uWL5ahaxrmq1rugVl79BGIRWsEcykIwo4mqIIMFVA=; b=THmCWyl+Z6L4Eh7iUCVNHgeP1xNz5+k34tJkjwjXfntbWDn4EV+2pbT6faM6aAzIas OLM71TFiCVFHI4vR3pwBWB+jphXXvpElAmEQtYVCSj6qCFW2RNV1/wrXWcR+stD0mctN ruuE6DDGE6lB0aIvbHyrorL4sTxj9+cUy22s/QyPulSV0viYGlQvPEp/EoT0B0M35qyJ 3DEc12IpnoHGcyjkpVwR0A28ciupOABt0YEhBqzFsrcHqgJ8zKQl4J5iMHBkOfI21ac6 Qvp8zoMHhssSePPFBgH8tF4wHLwr9IKuOO6TvHjddYhyOS8hT3te5ib3AXjD6O1uuP49 AaRw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlEIpECXLpY3XIwP2pjbfPgcYDGqVRcHKw/0wvkyKH3JS4ETiodnxmJT7m8UZpHw/y+zXAN X-Received: by 10.140.87.9 with SMTP id q9mr4805739qgd.94.1394481516159; Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (74-138-17-157.dhcp.insightbb.com. [74.138.17.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r31sm7531485qgr.12.2014.03.10.12.58.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <531E1968.5050309@rcbowen.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 15:58:32 -0400 From: Rich Bowen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: ApacheCon community panel References: <531E007E.30107@rcbowen.com> <531E0FFB.40103@rcbowen.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 03/10/2014 03:46 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I don't see how you can anticipate anything productive, given the > number of board members who think that the concept is evil, or, at > least, counter to their vision of the Apache Way. I'm pretty sure that's a misconception. I'm also sure that there's a middle ground where a compromise can be reached. > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> On 03/10/2014 02:36 PM, Nick Burch wrote: >>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Rich Bowen wrote: >>>> Do folks think that this will make a good panel discussion (obvious, I >>>> do), and, if so, who should participate in such a panel? I'd love to see >>>> someone from the board, and someone from the Cordova PMC. Suggestions as to >>>> who that should be? >>> >>> I'd vote for someone from infra too. My reading of the debate was that >>> there'd be additional tooling needed to support a community that wanted to >>> release that fast if they were to still maintain the levels of checking we >>> want + not burn out trying. A comdev volunteer might round it out as well, >>> since there were concerns about how volunteers and new community members >>> would be encouraged + supported to participate if there were lots of "work >>> hours" community members involved in the fast cadence process. >>> >>> As for the board member, do you want a fireworks filled session, a lively >>> debate, or a quiet but very productive one? ;-) >> >> Ideally I'd want something lively and productive. Fireworks might fill seats >> but ultimately do us no good. >> >> -- >> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen >> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >> -- Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon