Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BC9710976 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 35189 invoked by uid 500); 3 Mar 2014 18:04:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 35044 invoked by uid 500); 3 Mar 2014 18:04:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 35033 invoked by uid 99); 3 Mar 2014 18:04:54 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:04:54 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy includes SPF record at spf.trusted-forwarder.org) Received: from [85.214.115.60] (HELO h1349259.stratoserver.net) (85.214.115.60) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:04:47 +0000 Received: from isabel by h1349259.stratoserver.net with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WKXE2-0005cm-Kc; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:04:26 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:04:26 +0000 From: Isabel Drost-Fromm To: jan i Cc: "dev@community.apache.org" Subject: Re: On geeks growing up - wrt. ApacheCon Message-ID: <20140303180426.GA21544@localhost> Reply-To: isabel@apache.org References: <20140303095424.GA17965@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 02:32:10PM +0100, jan i wrote: > Apachecon will be in europe later this year, so the european perspective is > equally important. Great. > I think the idea is good. Thanks - it's just that in recent years I've observed more and more conferences become family friendly. > The entrance fee to AC is pretty high, but maybe > we could combine your idea with the idea of having a day (or half) where we > in general open up, and give spouses, our kids etc a chance to see why we > like spending soo much time with apache...meet some real people. Keep in mind though that the entrance fee is not the only hurdle. I've tried a few approaches to motivating spouses and kids to attend (offer city tours like FOSDEM does, try to find out whether people would be interested in a play area in advance) - in general people are hesitant to bring their family unless offerings are very clearly communicated (not everyone at Apache is as lucky as myself being married to a hacker who likes Linux kernel development goes a long way to visiting events like Froscon, FOSDEM, LinuxTage etc. together). One option to advertise non-tech offerings actually can be the ticket form itself: Tickets for kids and non-tech people should cover food and drinks, but should be way lower in prices than general conf admission (on-site this is relatively easy to "enforce" by differently coloured wrist bands). Again there needs to be some incentive/something to do for the family joining - having the conference take place in an interesting location and offering the ticket as hallway/catering ticket is one trivial option... Isabel