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From Ted Dunning <>
Subject Re: On geeks growing up - wrt. ApacheCon
Date Mon, 03 Mar 2014 18:42:11 GMT
I have to say one of the most fun conferences I have ever attended was the
third ALife conference.  They had a lego play area for children attending.
 Happily, very few children were there which allowed the rest of us to
spend many hours building responsive bots.  Balancing sticks.  Orienting
responders.  Line followers.  It was awesome.

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm <>wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 01:51:57PM +0000, Dave Cottlehuber wrote:
> > A number of software / ASF people I know, by virtue of working remotely,
> are also
> > defacto “child handlers” while their partner works in a normal
> face-to-face
> > job. It would be nice to facilitate conference attendees/speakers
> without requiring
> > major family upheaval to take place.
> Not everyone involved with ApacheCon (or conferences in general) has kids
> - one thing I've learnt in the past is that there is no better input than
> what parents tell you when it comes to stuff needed/missing. Would be great
> if you could motivate the ASF parents you know to share what would need to
> change to convince them to bring their family (depending on child age and
> other relevant parameters).
> One very simple example for illustration: It took me asking parents to
> understand that conference dates actually make a huge difference for people
> with children that go to school: Bringing those to a weekend event is
> trivial. Working days outside of holiday season though is not an option.
> Obvious once you hear it - not quite so obvious if you don't have children
> in that age yourself.
> Isabel

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