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From Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org>
Subject Re: ApacheCon community panel
Date Tue, 11 Mar 2014 14:21:31 GMT
I'd be happy to participate. This could definitely be a constructive
discussion, as I think Cordova's problems are/were actually more from
ignorance than from having special needs (project had a lot of turn-over /
growth after incubation). One topic I'm hoping to learn about from the
conference is how other projects manage their release automation would be
great.




On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:04 AM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:

> Maybe Andrew Bayer instead of me. He is a core committer on Jenkins
> (which has a strong affinity for CD); and jclouds moves faster.
> CloudStack isn't really a CD type of project - at least not yet.
>
> --David
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 03/11/2014 08:47 AM, David Nalley wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Benson Margulies <
> bimargulies@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It might be more interesting to skip Cordova altogether. The industry
> >>> is full of ferment about CD. If everyone checks their rhetoric at the
> >>> door, there could be an interesting conversation about how to mesh the
> >>> ideas of CD and the ideals of the ASF.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Agreed. I (from my comfortable arm chair, looking on) don't see
> >> Cordova as being a snowflake; but the larger topic is interesting.  I
> >> do see the software industry and a lot of open source projects waving
> >> the CD flag. I personally don't see CD and the Apache Way as mutually
> >> exclusive, though I see problems it could create if not handled well.
> >>
> >
> > No, I don't think they're a snowflake, but it might be seen as a jerky
> move
> > to exclude then from the conversation, as they're the ones that brought
> it
> > up.
> >
> > I'd suggest we ask Andrew Grieve -
> >
> http://apacheconnorthamerica2014.sched.org/event/c75e06c0f1d804b37066b67fda9f4e62
> > - to be on the panel, as he'll be giving a talk on their development
> > lifecycle, so will have some ideas prepared.
> >
> > From the Infra side, of course I'd like to ask Joe to be on the panel,
> and
> > possibly Sam as VP Infra and board member.
> >
> > And from a ... shall we say ... slower moving project, how about JimJag
> to
> > represent both the httpd project and the board perspective.
> >
> > So then who else should we invite from a project that would benefit from
> a
> > more rapid release cadence? Is that you, Dave, to represent CloudStack?
> >
> > At that point we'd be really pushing the size that a panel can tolerate
> > being and not be a shouting match.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
> >
>

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