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From Joseph Schaefer <>
Subject Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?
Date Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:06:54 GMT
+1.  Thinking early releases will yield higher quality
confuses cause and effect.  The organization Jim describes
is the organization I joined over a decade ago, and still
think the values he expresses are worth hanging onto today.

On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Jim Jagielski <> wrote:

> On Feb 11, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey <> wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Dave Fisher <> wrote:
>>> I have a real example where defined cadence is not as good as the Apache Way.
>> Apache policy does not forbid releasing on a predictable schedule.  Projects
>> are already free to release quarterly, monthly, or even weekly if they choose.
> That's right. There are lots of little phrases like "Release
> Early and Often" which emphasize that. But one of the nice
> things about Open Source projects is that, well, it's NOT
> work, its NOT a job, and we can also balance having a known
> and reliable release schedule with "We Won't Release Until
> Its Ready".
> PMCs aren't factories, churning out releases and code like
> widgets. We do that enough at our day-jobs. PMC and Apache
> projects should be, IMO of course, considered more like
> making a good wine or brewing a fine ale. It's a craft.
> It's an art form. FOSS projects should be fun and safe
> places where you can practice your craft.

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