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From Gabriela Gibson <>
Subject Re: Keynote idea: Apache Labs
Date Sat, 04 Jan 2014 20:08:06 GMT
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Rich Bowen <> wrote:

> On 12/25/2013 07:16 AM, Gabriela Gibson wrote:
> Hi
> Rich,
> You asked for ideas for
> keynotes.
> I'm not sure this idea is quite keynote speech material, but I looked your
> links up and thought that
> you're the right person to send this letter to.
> At the next Apache Con, I'd love to hear a talk that introduces a newly
> revamped Apache Labs community and invites everyone to come and take part.
> Not sure if this is keynote material, but it's certainly an interesting
> topic.
> If we were to do this as a keynote, who do you imagine would give the talk?
> I think Jan had a great idea when he suggested Tim as the speaker --- and
it would give Labs the top-notch promotion it deserves (and needs).

> Now, I know I'm an ASF newbie and don't know much about Apache (yet), but
> I'd like to say that I believe that a thriving Apache Labs community is
> very important.
> Apache Labs should be the grand front portal for ASF where new ideas,
> projects and new committers are won.
> True, ASF is big and has much kudos, but we still have to compete, and
> currently GitHub and BitBucket is eating our lunch!
> I've never really thought of them as competition. I tend to think that
> innovation is good wherever it happens. Do you know if anyone is pitching
> Labs as a competitor to those guys?
GitHub et al. are not strictly competition as such, but since ASF is the
biggest Open Source provider with ~4000 members, should we not provide an
alternative for our members, if only to allow projects to grow in the
Apache way, right from their inception?

Apache Labs could be a great 'idea & people magnet' with many benefits:

* starting a community with people who already know the Apache way has a
bigger chance of success and makes the transition to Incubator (if it
happens) much smoother.

* potential new committers will find new projects to be an easier starting
point and could be recruited to ongoing Apache projects

* because there is always 'something new', people would be tempted to visit
us more often and 'cross fertilization' would happen naturally, simply due
to the ensuing diversity of talent.

* existing projects would find it easier to collaborate on projects useful
to both of them in a neutral space and attract outside members.

I can only see upsides and no downsides and it would be nice to hear from
the Apache "kernel"/founders/members where they see the direction and
intention of a project like Apache Labs.


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