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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:39:39 +0100 (BST)
From: Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
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Subject: Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF
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+ it's also pretty hard to spin of small enough tasks which can be done in =
a GSoC project. Most of our projects need some really in-depth knowledge pr=
ior to hacking a smallish task :/=0A=0AIn this light, 33 is not that bad a =
number.=0A=0ALieGrue,=0Astrub=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0A=
> From: janI <jani@apache.org>=0A> To: dev@community.apache.org=0A> Cc: =0A=
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:35 PM=0A> Subject: Re: increasing GSoC =
visibility within the ASF=0A> =0A> On Apr 10, 2013 7:27 PM, "Ulrich St=E4rk=
" <uli@spielviel.de> =0A> wrote:=0A>> =0A>>  Folks,=0A>> =0A>>  I perceive =
a low interest of our projects in GSoC. The list of projects=0A> that submi=
tted project ideas=0A>>  that I compiled for Sally contained 33 entries of =
which some are=0A> subprojects I believe. With 138=0A>>  PMCs plus 35 podli=
ngs, this is less than one fifth of our projects.=0A>> =0A>>  We only had 3=
4 ideas one week before our application was due.=0A>> =0A>>  I run into com=
mitters that are not members of their projects PMCs who are=0A> eager to be=
 mentors but=0A>>  have no clue about what's going on because nobody from t=
he PMC =0A> forwarded=0A> my emails to their dev lists.=0A>> =0A>>  So the =
problem seems twofold: no interest and not reaching the right=0A> people. T=
he latter could be=0A>>  improved by simply sending to committers@ instead =
of pmcs@ but it's the=0A> first that worries me.=0A>> =0A>>  I believe GSoC=
 and every other opportunity to attract new contributors to=0A> our project=
s should be a=0A>>  key priority of our PMCs. Apparently it's not, for what=
ever reasons. I=0A> could think of missing=0A>>  cycles, indifference, and =
wrong priorities.=0A>> =0A>>  So what could we do to increase awareness for=
 the opportunities GSoC=0A> offers and that this program is=0A>>  important=
 to the foundation? Write more emails? Ask the board to mandate=0A> a secti=
on in board reports=0A>>  detailing the project's GSoC endeavors? Any ideas=
?=0A> =0A> one suggestion would be to make an apache page,=A0 that in short=
 tell=0A> 1) what should a proposal contain=0A> 2) what is required with as=
f to be mentor (on a asf project)=0A> 3) a short part about asf and our coo=
peration with google=0A> 4) How to proceed.=0A> =0A> I know you and others =
have e-mailed all that information, and quite a lot=0A> more. A page (which=
 are referenced in the e-mail) would make it easy for=0A> someone like me, =
to get the information I need fast, and if I feel it, I=0A> can always find=
 more details.=0A> =0A> Thx for doing a great job, and yes there could have=
 been more=0A> projects....but take it positively, we have some projects.=
=0A> =0A> Rgds=0A> jan I.=0A> =0A>> =0A>>  Uli=0A> 
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