Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDAB1ECBF for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12192 invoked by uid 500); 16 Feb 2013 20:01:16 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 12079 invoked by uid 500); 16 Feb 2013 20:01:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 12070 invoked by uid 99); 16 Feb 2013 20:01:16 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:01:16 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of bimargulies@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.45] (HELO mail-bk0-f45.google.com) (209.85.214.45) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:01:10 +0000 Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i18so1990420bkv.4 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:00:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=u68JEr3pokakmvnX8xjMjaYzE0NN5Z/hrkiT5W5ati4=; b=hmOp7gQdmufPWdu0ENQTAaqiuvXc5CWSxaYfygw/kRwoXFn/6JJR6ALu2F1fndwpFr XveUs9XGJUvOwYud/oSfMeehPMCT7B7allY3CYlaJyOUn5g1tjmDxzq/941yn4c18s5+ n/lhygVaR5dONY0fo1oTI+IgOnLQD85kanlbxMb8RFZvpQdlSBmvjAdJ+0PL8M/QHvd0 N1PJVEzZLBD/dbyVXgbNqWdEssYBy4RIK+Uhw+jljcADsW/iNBy49oGY5/XhZe3rMJ+X BriF0KsXZySLSFDmM/h+7Td1NaaYcZeqfUyhCGa+ZNnvfBU1alMHzsk9CW6j4CUJ4UfJ 1oHg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.204.154.199 with SMTP id p7mr2306122bkw.98.1361044850205; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:00:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.233.130 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:00:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3484077970516941326@unknownmsgid> <5721461869319068532@unknownmsgid> <511C0DF9.8090608@gmail.com> <511C3EBF.1000103@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:00:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anyone able to give the "Can I depend on Software built By Volunteers?" talk in Portland? From: Benson Margulies To: "dev@community.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I'm not in favor of power-point-poisoning in general, not to worry. On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > No slides - they kill interaction with the audience. > > Of course if you prefer to use slides, its your session now. > > Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity > On 16 Feb 2013 18:00, "Benson Margulies" wrote: > >> Are there some, well, slides? >> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea >> wrote: >> > @All, thanks for the pointers. >> > @Benson, will do, enjoy vacation. >> > Hadrian >> > >> > >> > On 02/13/2013 07:29 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> >> >> Hadrian, >> >> >> >> I'm going to be on vacation next week. On the other hand, the time >> >> slot is on Thursday AM. So I'd propose tuning this up over beer on >> >> site. >> >> >> >> --benson >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Ross Gardler >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I gave it in Vancouver and wherever was before that (Atlanta?). Nour, >> >>>> gave >> >>>> it in Sinsheim with his own twist. One thing that has remained >> constant >> >>>> throughout has been the interactive nature of the session, i.e. spend >> >>>> ten >> >>>> minutes setting the scene then guide the audience through the topic by >> >>>> inviting questions and comments from the floor (I really don't like >> >>>> "lecture" style presentations). Delivering a session like this >> requires >> >>>> a >> >>>> certain amount of "on the feet" thinking, as well as a few stooges in >> he >> >>>> audience to help keep it lively. >> >>>> >> >>>> The min theme of the session, as I gave it, is captured in a blog post >> >>>> at >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/apache-asserts/2012/05/apache-openoffice-can-i-depend-on-software-built-by-volunteers/index.htm >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Totally agree with what Ross has mentioned. Having an interactive talk >> is >> >>> much more fun and more attractive to the attendees. >> >>> >> >>> Ross, kindly, gave me a great chance to give this talk in Sienshein. >> The >> >>> only thing I added is to try to give a show case like scenario using >> the >> >>> attendees them selves. IIRC, Ross liked the idea but the case itself >> was >> >>> not a good example. He >> >>> mentioned some people made research in that area and they have a good >> >>> case >> >>> using which the show can be better. >> >>> >> >>> @Ross: I hope you still remember that :) as you promised to give me >> >>> links/pointers about that research >> >>> >> >>> @Benson and @Hadrian: Good luck :) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Ross >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 13 February 2013 22:55, Nick Burch wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Ross I think you delivered it in Vancouver. Do you happen to have >> some >> >>>>>> slides we could use as a starting point? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Ross gave it in Vancouver: >> >>>>> http://na11.apachecon.com/**talks/19420< >> >>>> >> >>>> http://na11.apachecon.com/talks/19420> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Nour gave it in Sinsheim: >> >>>>> http://www.apachecon.eu/**schedule/presentation/176/< >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.apachecon.eu/schedule/presentation/176/> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The Sinsheim talk ought to be here (but doesn't seem to be....) >> >>>>> http://archive.apachecon.com/**eu2012/presentations/07-** >> >>>>> Wednesday/PR-Community/< >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://archive.apachecon.com/eu2012/presentations/07-Wednesday/PR-Community/ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The Vancouver talk ought to be here (but doesn't seem to be....) >> >>>>> http://archive.apachecon.com/**na2011/presentations/09-** >> >>>>> Wednesday/C-Business/< >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://archive.apachecon.com/na2011/presentations/09-Wednesday/C-Business/ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Ross, Nour - any chance you could add your missing presentation >> slides >> >>>>> to >> >>>>> svn so they appear where they're supposed to be? :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Cheers >> >>>>> Nick >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >> >>>> Programme Leader (Open Development) >> >>>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Thanks >> >>> - Mohammad Nour >> >>> ---- >> >>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep >> >>> moving" >> >>> - Albert Einstein >>