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From Benson Margulies <>
Subject Re: Why no list of the comdev PMC itself on the comdev page?
Date Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:35:34 GMT
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Ross Gardler
<> wrote:
> On 21 August 2012 17:23, Benson Margulies <> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ross Gardler
>> <> wrote:
>>> On 21 August 2012 17:02, Benson Margulies <> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Ross Gardler
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>> Further to Bertrand comment it's not the PMC that is important but the
>>>>> people doing stuff.
>>>>> I'd disagree with the assertion "any other PMC", many of the PMCs I work
>>>>> with don't have such list (of course it's easily available via foundation
>>>>> pages if people want it).
>>>> Well, if I revised that to 'some' I suppose there would be no argument
>>> Not from me :-)
>>>> -- but -- better yet -- many PMCs have some concept of 'the team' in
>>>> their web presence . Should comdev? Not a rhetorical question; I could
>>>> see arguments either way.
>>> Like you I'm willing to listen to new arguments. This comes up every
>>> time I start mentoring a new project and I am yet to see a good
>>> argument for publicly stating "PMC member X is more important than
>>> contributor Y" (which is what I believe such "team pages" do).
>>> Consider that PMC Member X may be inactive and contributor Y may be
>>> elected a PMC member in a couple of weeks. There are, as you say,
>>> arguments both ways, for me the ones saying everyone is equal always
>>> win out.
>>> A more concrete example. The majority of work for this PMC is GSoC. We
>>> have two admins each year and around 40 mentors appointed (and maybe
>>> another 40 who don't get a student). In terms of hours of effort
>>> mentors work harder but typically they will not be ComDev PMC members.
>>> In terms of having to drop everything to solve a specific problem
>>> quickly, or meet tight deadlines, admins work much harder. Personally
>>> I'd rather just applaud everyone equally than try and say one is more
>>> deserving of public credit than another.
>>> Maybe I'm too much of an old hippie though ;-)
>> Whoops. I'm really *not* arguing for a PMC list. I'd be happy with any
>> community list. I won't even make an extended issue if someone offers
>> a reason to have *no* list.
> Ahhh... that's quite different and even harder to maintain (Bertrands
> point) since we can't point at committers lists. Do mentors go on it?
> What about mentors who evaluated but didn't get a student? What about
> someone who writes some ComDev docs?

fair enough. Perhaps I may post a patch via the CMS to say a few more
words about the mailing list, then.

> Ross

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