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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject Re: Why no list of the comdev PMC itself on the comdev page?
Date Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:30:46 GMT
On 21 August 2012 17:23, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ross Gardler
> <rgardler@opendirective.com> wrote:
>> On 21 August 2012 17:02, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Ross Gardler
>>> <rgardler@opendirective.com> wrote:
>>>> Further to Bertrand comment it's not the PMC that is important but the
>>>> people doing stuff.
>>>>
>>>> I'd disagree with the assertion "any other PMC", many of the PMCs I work
>>>> with don't have such list (of course it's easily available via foundation
>>>> pages if people want it).
>>>
>>> Well, if I revised that to 'some' I suppose there would be no argument
>>
>> Not from me :-)
>>
>>> -- but -- better yet -- many PMCs have some concept of 'the team' in
>>> their web presence . Should comdev? Not a rhetorical question; I could
>>> see arguments either way.
>>
>> Like you I'm willing to listen to new arguments. This comes up every
>> time I start mentoring a new project and I am yet to see a good
>> argument for publicly stating "PMC member X is more important than
>> contributor Y" (which is what I believe such "team pages" do).
>> Consider that PMC Member X may be inactive and contributor Y may be
>> elected a PMC member in a couple of weeks. There are, as you say,
>> arguments both ways, for me the ones saying everyone is equal always
>> win out.
>>
>> A more concrete example. The majority of work for this PMC is GSoC. We
>> have two admins each year and around 40 mentors appointed (and maybe
>> another 40 who don't get a student). In terms of hours of effort
>> mentors work harder but typically they will not be ComDev PMC members.
>> In terms of having to drop everything to solve a specific problem
>> quickly, or meet tight deadlines, admins work much harder. Personally
>> I'd rather just applaud everyone equally than try and say one is more
>> deserving of public credit than another.
>>
>> Maybe I'm too much of an old hippie though ;-)
>
>
> Whoops. I'm really *not* arguing for a PMC list. I'd be happy with any
> community list. I won't even make an extended issue if someone offers
> a reason to have *no* list.

Ahhh... that's quite different and even harder to maintain (Bertrands
point) since we can't point at committers lists. Do mentors go on it?
What about mentors who evaluated but didn't get a student? What about
someone who writes some ComDev docs?

Ross

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