Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B5E17040 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 7770 invoked by uid 500); 29 Dec 2011 18:05:51 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 7693 invoked by uid 500); 29 Dec 2011 18:05:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 7685 invoked by uid 99); 29 Dec 2011 18:05:50 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:05:50 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [128.149.139.106] (HELO mail.jpl.nasa.gov) (128.149.139.106) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:05:44 +0000 Received: from mail.jpl.nasa.gov (altvirehtstap02.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.137.73]) by smtp.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id pBTI5MAp013276 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO) for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:05:22 -0800 Received: from ALTPHYEMBEVSP20.RES.AD.JPL ([128.149.137.83]) by ALTVIREHTSTAP02.RES.AD.JPL ([128.149.137.73]) with mapi; Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:05:21 -0800 From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" To: "dev@community.apache.org" Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:07:55 -0800 Subject: Apache Extras Question Thread-Topic: Apache Extras Question Thread-Index: AczGVG5BCvWZxtafRkWIMykAlj7djA== Message-ID: <9FBF6112-CBD1-454E-873B-F79C1648ECA6@jpl.nasa.gov> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Source-IP: altvirehtstap02.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.137.73] X-Source-Sender: chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Authorized (moving this thread over from community@apache.org, per Bertrand's suggesti= on) Hey Guys, I was reading [1] and I noticed item 3.1 and 3.2 stating that projects at E= xtras shouldn't use the org.apache namespace (e.g., if Java), and they shouldn't use the ap= ache project name in their extras name. I find this kind of odd.=20 Here's my concrete situation. Over in Apache OODT ville, I've got 2 plugins= for our PushPull system that pulls down remote file content from sites and downloads them. T= he 2 plugins are Java plugins that integrate libraries that are LGPL licensed. I can't i= nclude these plugins in Apache OODT as part of PushPull even though we use the plugins extensive= ly on=20 projects where we deploy OODT and they are better FTP plugins than existing= friendly (to ALv2) licensed projects. So, given the choice of simply keeping the code housed i= n our internal JPL SVN and being unable to more broadly share it, I decided to throw up a = project on=20 Extras called oodt-pushpull-plugins, and throw the code up there. I however= did this before=20 reading [1] and am now worried I'm in violation of 3.1 and 3.2 because I us= ed org.apache.oodt.cas.pushpull as the namespace for my java package and I used oodt all over my code (whic= h I licensed under ALv2 FWIW, here [2]). FWIW also, the only folks I would expect to wor= k on=20 [2] would be OODT PMC members, myself so far, and Brian Foster who are folk= s who work on PushPull. So I'm wondering what's up with 3.1 and 3.2. Isn't the use of similar proje= ct names precisely=20 what we want at Extras? And what's the harm in allowing projects to use org= .apache.oodt=20 in their namespace over there? That won't confuse people IMHO, because I'm = not to=20 publish to Maven Central (and wouldn't want to -- I'd want folks to downloa= d this library independently and mvn install it locally, and instructed folks to do so on = [3]) and because we will make it clear with documentation on our Wiki (that I was just about= to write but will hold off on until I hear the result of this thread) that the code at o= odt-pushpull-plugins on Apache Extras is *not* Apache OODT.=20 Comments back would be appreciated. Ross told me that ComDev is charged wit= h Apache Extras so that's why I'm asking here. Cheers, Chris [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/guidelines.html [2] http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/oodt-pushpull-plugins/ [3] http://s.apache.org/8FB ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: community-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: community-help@apache.org