Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org
Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy)
Message-ID: <4EDEB9EE.4030701@shanecurcuru.org>
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:57:18 -0500
From: Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
 rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Website improvement ideas
References: <4ECE877F.7010106@shanecurcuru.org>
 <CAEWfVJ=tS3U6J=QsQkGStSUcbK4RqNP6gsOUcRrZ66MeW-gf0w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKQbXgB=2bsiRadDPN2PbRGAV2UptYuoQH81x5dUstWeriQwZQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <4ECFA776.5060404@shanecurcuru.org> <4EDE40AB.3050804@shanecurcuru.org>
 <6448300B-8EBA-4F9E-ABF8-B03AD6AD468A@apache.org>
In-Reply-To: <6448300B-8EBA-4F9E-ABF8-B03AD6AD468A@apache.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On 2011-12-06 4:52 PM, Brett Porter wrote:
> Sounds like good ideas.
>
> I understand your concerns earlier in the thread, however I still
> think /governance belongs on www.a.o. I don't want to see
> community.a.o generating a lot of new content outside of its scope of
> enabling new contributors and "signposting" - there's enough problems
> with docs being split between incubator and www.a.o/dev as it is :)
>
> - Brett

ACK.  Anyone else want to +1 making this be either www.a.o/governance or 
www.a.o/foundation/governance?

I just mentally found it easier to put stuff on community.a.o to start 
with, but I see your point.

- Shane

>
> On 07/12/2011, at 3:19 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
>
>> [PROPOSAL] I plan to create community.a.o/governance with:
>>
>> /index: brief overview for new readers, and link to the subpages.  I was thinking of having two lists linked to the subpages: one by organizational hierarchy (the board is on top), one by importance (the PMCs are on top).
>>
>> /board
>> /membership  (writing now)
>> /pmcs
>> /committers (tbd)
>> /contributors (tbd)
>> /users (tbd, wondering if we should write this one to show that users don't directly participate in governance, other than that most healthy projects will pay attention to user needs)
>>
>> /orgchart - we really need one.  Shows the board at the top left, then three columns:
>> ====
>> - Operations: prez reports solid line to board and prez directs VP, Infra to keep machines going
>>
>> - Strategy: various other officers solid line report to the board directly
>>
>> - Projects: two chunks of things:
>> -- Meta projects: attic, conferences, community, etc.
>> -- Code projects: example listing httpd, Hadoop, Lucene, etc.
>>
>> Projects all *dotted* line report to the board for oversight.  Emphasize how the ASF is about supporting projects.
>> ====
>>
>>
>> Update the homepage to provide a quick table of contents in terms of concepts (additionally to the way we provide contents for "who are you?" of newcomers/committers/etc.)
>>
>>
>> - Intro paragraphs
>> - How can we help?  If you're new/committer/contributor/etc
>> - What do you want to learn? See governance, technical how-tos, etc.
>> - About the comdev project
>> - How to ask questions! (explicitly explain mailing lists to draw people towards them)
>>
>>
>> - Shane
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>