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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <>
Subject Re: Apache Extras Question
Date Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:59:03 GMT
Hi Dennis,

On Dec 29, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> Funny, your conclusion is exactly contrary to my reasoning.  
> It strikes me that you are talking about extending the decentralized governance of the
org.apache.oodt.* namespace (i.e., the ability to add branches and new types) to an external
effort that, coincidentally, happens to be conducted by a member of the Apache OODT project
and not within the structure of the project itself.

No, that's not what I'm proposing. I'm proposing to use Apache Extras, a supposedly sanctioned
"associated" and not "external" effort that supposedly is amenable (per its own explanation
that I've cited several times and won't bother doing again) to libraries and licenses outside
the normal ALv2 process to host closely related Apache OODT code there and to leverage 
the org.apache.oodt namespace as part of it.

Mark Struberg had another concrete suggestion: kudos to him for proposing using 
org.apachextras.oodt (implied). I could live with that, but don't believe I (or anyone else)
should have to.

> It is ok for you to have a plugin there.  And you can certainly use org.apache.oodt.*
types in the manner in which they are established by Apache OODT. 

I'm not even sure what you're saying in terms of using "org.apache.oodt.* types". If you mean

using "interfaces" published by the org.apache.oodt namespace, then yes, I agree. The plugins

that I'm talking about are concrete Java class implementations of the OODT CAS PushPull Protocol


> I just don't think the ability to expand the namespace travels so easily.  Would you
grant the same capability to someone who had no affiliation with the Apache OODT project?

I'd rather not talk about hypotheticals (kudos to Sam Ruby for teaching me that) and focus
on what I'm actually proposing. 


Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA

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