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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: Apache Extras Question
Date Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:56:07 GMT
Funny, your conclusion is exactly contrary to my reasoning.  

It strikes me that you are talking about extending the decentralized governance of the org.apache.oodt.*
namespace (i.e., the ability to add branches and new types) to an external effort that, coincidentally,
happens to be conducted by a member of the Apache OODT project and not within the structure
of the project itself.

It is ok for you to have a plugin there.  And you can certainly use org.apache.oodt.* types
in the manner in which they are established by Apache OODT. 

I just don't think the ability to expand the namespace travels so easily.  Would you grant
the same capability to someone who had no affiliation with the Apache OODT project?

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Mattmann, Chris A (388J) [] 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 13:07
Subject: Re: Apache Extras Question

Hey Dennis,

On Dec 29, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> Thanks Chris,
> Just one caution.  I mentioned authority over namespaces, not authority over Apache Extras.
 The question is what constitutes authorized use of additions to the org.apache.* hierarchy
for namespaces.  On reflection, I think the answer should be independent of Apache Extras.
> And the notion of decentralization of authority over package names by use of the namespace
hierarchies is a bit different than delegation to and within Apache projects.  (E.g., I would
expect the body having authority over to have authority over namespace
branches of* and be reluctant to delegate that beyond their subordinate

Yep totally agreed. I'm chair of the PMC having authority over org.apache.oodt, and that's
I'm pushing that it be OK for me to have that plugin there. I think the PMC would support
in this decision but am trying to get ComDev to see that what I'm proposing is fine before
going back and recording an official decision then.


Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA

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