Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9ACB6435 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 94656 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2011 21:02:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 94583 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2011 21:02:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 94575 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jul 2011 21:02:10 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:02:10 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of bimargulies@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.161.47] (HELO mail-fx0-f47.google.com) (209.85.161.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:02:04 +0000 Received: by fxg11 with SMTP id 11so4137788fxg.6 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:01:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=HahP0H4kxH3OFvFlKa43mbcgFO17Kez8ZgKW+TnIvdg=; b=IBg+1QCqfuYjgo4bcA09kbdeHh492zPClKf35pPKiTDu/GDeOM7uX9XVQDrExzkuFC qVCWFVIFmOXiYtP01R5EUQg8/MOhEGGZ7Pn4mB7FZU/6VQa3sz/DI3wo4OUDtudb95+A GeErr/F2o9VQZLQ1k97Fqz4PnLfY556gvQ8pM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.130.19 with SMTP id q19mr228052bks.0.1311282104005; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.54.202 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:01:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:01:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts From: Benson Margulies To: dev@community.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 21 July 2011 21:55, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> >>> Personally I feel that GSoC students should earn commit access just >>> like anyone else. >> >> I have a lot of sympathy for Greg's position. Treating 'committer' as >> a single monolithic category drives people away. > > (I'll ignore the fact that you have cut the part of my message in > which I say we shouldn't force my opinion on people) Ross, I apologize. I wasn't trying to represent this as your view, I was just trying to shrink the size of the email. > >> A typical problem case is someone who sets out to undertake a big, >> complex, contribution. > > That is not a GSoC case. So is irrelevant to this discussion (but is > certainly relevant to giving commit access in general). I was originally going to write, "Students are not precisely this case, but if it was culturally acceptable in general to grant commit access on branches to people before granting full committer status, that policy could be used to justify granting it to students." I guess I should have. > > Ross >