Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 568157D48 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 94248 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2011 08:31:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 94021 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2011 08:31:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 93999 invoked by uid 99); 22 Jul 2011 08:30:57 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:30:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-vx0-f170.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username edwardyoon, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:30:56 +0000 Received: by vxi39 with SMTP id 39so1655406vxi.29 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:30:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.68.164 with SMTP id x4mr1248148vdt.139.1311323455282; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.194.13 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:30:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:30:55 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts From: "Edward J. Yoon" To: dev@community.apache.org, antelder@apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry this is other question but, one of my students asked about "anyone can jump in and volunteer to be a committer."[1] .......... What's the exact policy on this? 1. http://markmail.org/thread/jb63zsbenmanr3fs Thanks, Ed On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:03 PM, ant elder wrote: > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 16:55, Benson Margulies = wrote: >>>... >>>> Personally I feel that GSoC students should earn commit access just >>>> like anyone else. >>> >>> I have a lot of sympathy for Greg's position. Treating 'committer' as >>> a single monolithic category drives people away. >> >> Right. It is necessary to distinguish between "commit access [to a >> branch]" and "commit access [to trunk]". I fully concur that access to >> trunk follows the same pattern as regular committers. GSoC students >> have no elevated rights. >> >> However, I think providing a GSoC student with commit to a branch is >> an easy decision, and that it should be the default policy. (for the >> reasons listed in my previous note) >> >> [ next part strays from the GSoC discussion ] >>>... >>> should have to. I'd be happy to see the foundation endorse the idea >>> that a PMC can choose to grant commit karma to branches, in a trial >>> basis, to people who have submitted a suitable cla. That would not >>> given them nexus karma, web-site-editing karma, or dogma karma. >> >> The Subversion PMC has an operating rule that basic states, "any >> individual PMC member may grant commit access to a non-trunk area, to >> a developer with an ICLA on file". There is a subjective level to >> this: does it clearly make sense (say, a branch), or might it be a >> little controversial (say, the directory for the 'svn' command-line >> tool). For the latter, we encourage the Member to float the idea on >> private@ first. But we don't have a strict written policy here; good >> judgement is always a great replacement for more rules :-) >> >> I would very much encourage other PMCs to adopt similar policies. >> Again, with version control, the phrase "damage control" almost >> doesn't apply. >> >> Cheers, >> -g >> > > I agree with Greg and the others in favour of keeping it easy to get > write access, and i really like the Subversion PMC approach. > > I don't understand the mindset that commit access should be hard to > get or something that must be worked hard to earn. Most project i > watch don't find it that easy to attract new developers so when one > does turn up i think its better to be open and welcoming and not be > like "thanks but earn you place first" which is more likely to just > discourage them. > > =C2=A0 ...ant > --=20 Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon @eddieyoon