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From: Ross Gardler <rgardler@apache.org>
Subject: Capturing mail (was Re: Stackoverflow)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 11:20:09 +0100
To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org>

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On 13 May 2011, at 02:31, David Blevins <david.blevins@gmail.com> wrote:

> For me tagging and voting and (i forgot) the marking the question answered=
 (thanks, Benson) are the parts I would love.
>=20
> I write some really good responses sometimes and even *I* have a hard time=
 finding some of my old responses in the list archive haystack.

Right. I always ask users to provide a patch if they find an answer in the m=
ailing list useful. Of course it rarely happens (even with devs).=20

Keeping things simple, could we provide a feature in the CMS that simply cop=
ies a mail from our archives (with backlinks) into the CMS system for the ap=
propriate project?

A link to this could also be provided in the footer of each mail (only works=
 for committers).

In the CMS we could have some magic system to build an index.=20

I appreciate this has now moved away from stack overflow (I changed the subj=
ect) but for any Perl hackers looking for something useful to do on a weeken=
d I would certainly use such a feature.=20

This could grow to fancy tagging, tracking and more. But I believe thus is a=
 reasonably simple thin to do that would provide immediate benefits.=20

Ross

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> And to avoid the "tag names can be spam" issue having so that only committ=
ers can introduce new tags would be fine for me.  It could be a file in svn o=
r something else equally lame but functional.
>=20
>=20
> -David
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> On May 12, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
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>> There is another factor that comes into play.  QA sites like SO also blen=
d
>> in wiki and trust mechanisms.  Thus, highly rated users can and do rewrit=
e
>> questions to be more answerable/understandable.  They can also rewrite
>> answers if necessary.
>>=20
>> Without automated karma, the moderation function has to be granted manual=
ly
>> which is a process that doesn't scale as easily and is subject to attack b=
y
>> cabals.  That way lies wikipedia's dictatorship of the editor proletariat=

>> and associated drop in user participation.  That is fine for a largely
>> static knowledge base, but SO addresses much more dynamic topics in a way=

>> that engages the readership much more strongly.  Moreover, the feedback
>> cycle essentially guarantees that the moderators reflect the interests of=

>> the voting public.
>>=20
>> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:47 PM, David Blevins <david.blevins@gmail.com>w=
rote:
>>=20
>>> Another thought.  Sometimes I wonder how hard it would be to just allow
>>> tagging and voting on top of a plain mailing list emails.  A simple DB w=
ith
>>> the messageId as the key for tags and vote count then a slightly fancier=

>>> archive view than we have now.   And hey, markdown happens to look nice a=
s
>>> plain email.  I've actually been indenting code snippets for years.
>>>=20
>>> I admit I like getting SO points and badges but they do not factor in at=

>>> all when looking for the right answer.
>>>=20
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