Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1161F54C9 for ; Fri, 13 May 2011 01:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 78822 invoked by uid 500); 13 May 2011 01:31:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-community-dev-archive@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 78758 invoked by uid 500); 13 May 2011 01:31:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@community.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@community.apache.org Received: (qmail 78750 invoked by uid 99); 13 May 2011 01:31:55 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 May 2011 01:31:55 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of david.blevins@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.170 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.83.170] (HELO mail-pv0-f170.google.com) (74.125.83.170) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 May 2011 01:31:46 +0000 Received: by pvg16 with SMTP id 16so1107031pvg.29 for ; Thu, 12 May 2011 18:31:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=c7QE+u7HbyDhO/FyBRkcMypc1cQ79jZkuC2ROHXu02I=; b=h4HH4p4NzEzHHUl0QUzLmpur/ruKvMdQYPiJG98B9+fzBFvvTMI8+gBv6d+J5UzBzZ U89u1YBsrlQajax28jy1vkSEQWFws0WXWQkKISBm/Llzyhg/XBkuxV/iKlDFUcOVEFEr 3Urgksg3NU4YiWZhSQQZXYVDOWdHP5WKxvdT4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=WzhIKMjcU8oHu94lbSZsKZDVb56OccdxWBnO0N/zgtW8vQulrW962abMIDL6bX8lwZ gCe3Bt7dj9Ze+SYs2impXtblkNpCrnorn0Qc59vyUtZFc3BsKw7QfLk5Z5wKM23FdAd1 5sCcXqoLs7pajd5BYEN5TtYLZI++CrS+WH/U8= Received: by 10.68.15.102 with SMTP id w6mr1215358pbc.494.1305250285150; Thu, 12 May 2011 18:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cpe-76-175-195-209.socal.res.rr.com [76.175.195.209]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y8sm1019390pba.51.2011.05.12.18.31.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 12 May 2011 18:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: Stackoverflow From: David Blevins In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 18:31:20 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3E26A879-0853-4904-A9AA-0DDA1EA67C26@gmail.com> References: <4DCBF2D1.1090000@apache.org> <4DCC36CD.2000403@apache.org> <4DCC4BC0.3040005@apache.org> <4DCC620D.4030105@apache.org> <8C87C259-6282-40C3-8C18-B063E73F4C47@gmail.com> To: dev@community.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I guess I'd ignore the 'edit' part and avoid the issue completely. It = would also make it hard to do as simple metadata around a plain email. For me tagging and voting and (i forgot) the marking the question = answered (thanks, Benson) are the parts I would love. I write some really good responses sometimes and even *I* have a hard = time finding some of my old responses in the list archive haystack. And to avoid the "tag names can be spam" issue having so that only = committers can introduce new tags would be fine for me. It could be a = file in svn or something else equally lame but functional. -David On May 12, 2011, at 6:04 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > There is another factor that comes into play. QA sites like SO also = blend > in wiki and trust mechanisms. Thus, highly rated users can and do = rewrite > questions to be more answerable/understandable. They can also rewrite > answers if necessary. >=20 > Without automated karma, the moderation function has to be granted = manually > which is a process that doesn't scale as easily and is subject to = attack by > cabals. That way lies wikipedia's dictatorship of the editor = proletariat > and associated drop in user participation. That is fine for a largely > static knowledge base, but SO addresses much more dynamic topics in a = way > that engages the readership much more strongly. Moreover, the = feedback > cycle essentially guarantees that the moderators reflect the interests = of > the voting public. >=20 > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:47 PM, David Blevins = wrote: >=20 >> Another thought. Sometimes I wonder how hard it would be to just = allow >> tagging and voting on top of a plain mailing list emails. A simple = DB with >> the messageId as the key for tags and vote count then a slightly = fancier >> archive view than we have now. And hey, markdown happens to look = nice as >> plain email. I've actually been indenting code snippets for years. >>=20 >> I admit I like getting SO points and badges but they do not factor in = at >> all when looking for the right answer. >>=20