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From Noirin Shirley <noi...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] roll women@a.o into dev@community.a.o
Date Mon, 19 Jul 2010 07:38:29 GMT
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anjana G Bhattacharjee
<a.g.bhattacharjee@gmail.com> wrote:
> -1 (unbinding)
>
> because this vote, and the "dot it" slip, reminds me of a problem of
> relevance when "dotting the i's and crossing the t's" when framing any vote,
> so to speak

I'll admit, I'm often "lazy" when it came to consensus. However,
having read this, and the thread that followed, I think it's important
to remember that the way the vote is formulated by whomever opens the
thread is not the same as what members of the PMC vote on.

Having recently opened a vote on ConCom that was somewhat unclear,
it's even more obvious to me that an ambiguous call from a PMC chair
does not necessarily lead to an ambiguous result of that vote :-) I
don't want to see this vote derailled because of potential confusion
over who was voting to close women@ and who was voting for an
auto-responder.

In case anyone was unclear, I'm +1 on rolling women@ into
dev@community as described, including an auto-responder :-)

The reality is that women@ hasn't had a post from a woman in a very
long time. There are definitely still issues facing women at Apache,
and simultaneously, progress has definitely been made. But I think now
that we have ComDev, we should try to bring things under that
umbrella, and not get hung up on dots and crosses when there are
genuine problems to deal with.

Noirin

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