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From curc...@apache.org
Subject svn commit: r1786477 - /comdev/site/trunk/content/lists.mdtext
Date Sat, 11 Mar 2017 00:28:10 GMT
Author: curcuru
Date: Sat Mar 11 00:28:10 2017
New Revision: 1786477

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1786477&view=rev
Log:
Better point to dev@community, tweak headers

Modified:
    comdev/site/trunk/content/lists.mdtext

Modified: comdev/site/trunk/content/lists.mdtext
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/comdev/site/trunk/content/lists.mdtext?rev=1786477&r1=1786476&r2=1786477&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- comdev/site/trunk/content/lists.mdtext (original)
+++ comdev/site/trunk/content/lists.mdtext Sat Mar 11 00:28:10 2017
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@ Notice:    Licensed to the Apache Softwa
            specific language governing permissions and limitations
            under the License.
 
-Almost everything at Apache uses a mailing list to get work done.  People can 
+Almost everything at Apache uses a mailing list to get work done, including this Community
Development project right here!  People can 
 send mail to the list, many other community members get the message, and 
 someone will usually reply.  Every mailing list at Apache is archived: most lists are 
 [archived publicly][1].  That means that newcomers to a community can learn how 
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ find the right mailing list - and then s
 # Read This First
 
 [Detailed instructions][2] on how to use Apache mailing lists (subscribing, sending 
-mail, reading the archives) are posted on our main developer site.  You can email most 
+mail, reading the archives, and other technical steps) are posted on our main developer site.
 You can email most 
 lists without subscribing, but some lists require subscription first.  Most emails 
 are moderated, so it won't show up on the list immediately, you may need to wait 
 a day, especially if you are new.
@@ -37,26 +37,28 @@ a day, especially if you are new.
 Please be sure your [question is on topic for the list][3], and that you have at 
 least checked the documentation first: everyone at Apache is a volunteer, 
 and if you don't do your homework, we probably can't help you.
+It's also best to follow our [email etiquette guidelines][4].
 
-# Find The Right List
+# Find The Right Mailing List
 
 Finding the right list helps get your question in front of people who will know 
-the answer.  Every project at Apache uses their own dev@, user@, and 
+the answer.  Each project at Apache uses their own dev@, user@, and 
 other mailing lists - so asking about Apache Tomcat on the Apache Cassandra 
 lists is likely going to be ignored.
 
-Projects should have a Mailing Lists, Community, Contact Us link on their homepage, start
there.
+Most projects have a `Mailing Lists`, `Community`, or `Contact Us` link on their homepage,

+so start there if you know which project you're asking about.  If you don't know which 
+kind of list to ask on, we have a full list of all  [Apache-wide mailing lists][5].
 
-If you have **any non-technical questions**, or a general question about how 
-Apache works, then you should check our [Apache-wide mailing lists][4], or just 
-ask here on dev@community.apache.org!
+If you have **any non-technical questions** - or a question for us here in community development!
+ - then you should just ask here by sending mail to **`dev@community.apache.org`**!
 
-# Read The Archives 
+# Read The List Archives 
 
 Almost every list at Apache is archived publicly.  This is a great way to learn about 
 how a community has done things in the past, or to learn about *why* a project 
-operates the way they do.  The ASF maintains an official archive, which is 
-guaranteed to have all emails, but is a bit clunky:
+operates the way they do.  The ASF maintains an official archive, allows both 
+browsing and searching through all public mail archives:
 
  * [https://lists.apache.org/](https://lists.apache.org/)
 
@@ -65,11 +67,13 @@ offer useful search or sending functiona
 
  * MarkMail [http://apache.markmail.org/](http://apache.markmail.org/) - natural language
search
  * MARC [https://marc.info/](https://marc.info/)
- * The (old) Mail Archive [https://mail-archive.com/][5]
+ * The (old) Mail Archive [https://mail-archive.com/][6]
  * GMANE [http://gmane.org/](http://dir.gmane.org/search.php?match=apache)
 
+
   [1]: http://www.apache.org/foundation/public-archives.html
   [2]: http://www.apache.org/dev/#mail
   [3]: http://www.apache.org/dev/contrib-email-tips
-  [4]: http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html
-  [5]: https://mail-archive.com/search?l=all&q=apache&e=listname
+  [4]: https://community.apache.org/contributors/etiquette
+  [5]: http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html
+  [6]: https://mail-archive.com/search?l=all&q=apache&e=listname
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