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From Gary Gregory <GGreg...@seagullsoftware.com>
Subject RE: [validator] Status Of Future Development In Light of Bean Validation and ORO Retirement
Date Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:18:42 GMT
I cannot speak as to whether a new release is being considered but I assure you that volunteers
are always welcome and appreciated.

Gary 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacob Zwiers [mailto:Jacob.Zwiers@tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 11:15
> To: 'Commons Users List'
> Subject: RE: [validator] Status Of Future Development In Light of Bean
> Validation and ORO Retirement
> 
> Thanks, Gary.
> 
> Upon investigation, it appears that all the changes to remove the Jakarta ORO
> dependency have been done under various 1.4 bugs.
> 
> So, I can use the 1.4-SNAPSHOT release to get what I need in the short term.
> 
> I've also noted the answer some of my original questions (eg. Validator2 seems
> to be in progress).
> 
> That being said, the underlying question remains:  is there a desire among the
> committers (given the JSR-303 and validator2 work ongoing) to make a 1.4
> release?
> 
> If so, where do you see volunteer help being useful?
> 
> jz
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Gregory [mailto:GGregory@seagullsoftware.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:18 AM
> To: Commons Users List
> Subject: RE: [validator] Status Of Future Development In Light of Bean
> Validation and ORO Retirement
> 
> Hi Jacob,
> 
> The best way to get the ball rolling on something like this is to create a
> patch and attach it to a JIRA ticket. Next would be getting a release out
> which means a committer would need to volunteer and be voted in as the release
> manager.
> 
> Gary Gregory
> Senior Software Engineer
> Rocket Software
> 3340 Peachtree Road, Suite 820 . Atlanta, GA 30326 . USA
> Tel: +1.404.760.1560
> Email: ggregory@seagullsoftware.com
> Web: seagull.rocketsoftware.com
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jacob Zwiers [mailto:Jacob.Zwiers@tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca]
> > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 09:58
> > To: 'user@commons.apache.org'
> > Subject: [validator] Status Of Future Development In Light of Bean
> > Validation and ORO Retirement
> >
> > I've scanned the last couple of years of the mailing lists to try and
> > get this information.  Apologies if it's answered elsewhere, but I couldn't
> find it.
> >
> > I'm aware of the Incubator project "Bean Validator" which is taking
> > the Commons Validator in a new, JSR-303 direction.
> >
> > I've also noted some (not sure how recent) action on a version 1.4
> > which seems intended to bring the minumum JDK up to 1.4.
> >
> > However, it seems that ORO (http://jakarta.apache.org/oro/) has been
> > retired, and "Users are encouraged to use similar features in newer
> > Java versions, where available."
> >
> > I went down this path trying to remove dependencies on ORO but got
> > stopped because of the validator dependecy on it.
> >
> > So ... my question is ... is there any appetite for a validator2
> > project which bring the JDK up to 1.4 or 1.5 and gets off the ORO
> depencency.
> >
> > Or can that just be done as part of the 1.4 release since it shouldn't
> > require and API changes ... and may not benefit too much from and JDK 1.5
> features?
> >
> > The use case would be for projects which continue to value the
> > implementation of the routine-based validation of things like email
> > addresses but don't need the whole JSR-303.
> >
> > Either way, I'm happy to provide patches since (at least on the ORO-
> > replacement) since I've already gone down that path with some or our
> > internal regexps.
> >
> > jz
> 
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