Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 26439 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2006 21:37:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 2006 21:37:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 22665 invoked by uid 500); 18 Apr 2006 21:37:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-user-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 22610 invoked by uid 500); 18 Apr 2006 21:37:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-user-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Users List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 22577 invoked by uid 99); 18 Apr 2006 21:37:35 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:37:35 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of flamefew@gmail.com designates 64.233.166.182 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.166.182] (HELO pproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.166.182) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:37:34 -0700 Received: by pproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t32so1004071pyc for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:37:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z7q/kn46szb79PSPOfTJVfSME32v8c4gA+IUqT2iVwya6bcVOkT+g4N6ABRjYaeQigXN9AxZQ/255T2gXyFJW2DixWZjh8vX5MVGSRALHolqdyF/JWrRcTHoxQDXPceLv+k3UBUs8vSPAnFwfNmy6xJ6kf8ed5BP0joAA60UGq0= Received: by 10.35.76.9 with SMTP id d9mr1997461pyl; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.22.15 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31cc37360604181437k2cddb35dlc6e57a8a56750fc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 14:37:13 -0700 From: "Henri Yandell" To: "Jakarta Commons Users List" Subject: Re: JMimeMagic (was [fileUpload] file content-type) In-Reply-To: <44453B7F.4060403@transmorphix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <16d6c6200604181042i61cb3b92pa01a5344ff184acb@mail.gmail.com> <44452785.30405@schliesing.de> <31cc37360604181159o74ac162dj7bfbbb9b3bad39f2@mail.gmail.com> <444538D6.6040001@transmorphix.com> <9f066ee90604181211m1259d221wa3878ccbba398c0c@mail.gmail.com> <44453B7F.4060403@transmorphix.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Right. There are legal bits and policy bits entwined here. The ASF doesn't distribute software under licences other than the ASL. It's not a solid policy - but I doubt we'll ever stretch it to involve us shipping under strong copyleft licences. As with any group of 1000+ people, we don't agree on much, but we do largely seem to prefer the gift style of BSD licence (makes sense, wouldn't be here otherwise). We can't legally change the licence on the code - so wouldn't be able to take a fork into Commons (for example). The original author(s) would need to relicence (to BSD/MIT/ASL equivalents), or we would need to start afresh. Cliff Schmidt has outlined a solid policy for us (http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html). It's still getting agreed upon (and argued upon), but now that I think about it, that actually would allow us to depend on JMimeMagic. We wouldn't be able to ship it with our fileupload binary etc, but we don't ship dependencies with our binaries anyway. Hen On 4/18/06, Brian K. Wallace wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Just be conscious of the fact that, with all open source projects, time > is usually volunteer/as available/as the urge strikes. I wouldn't start > to get anxious for a couple of weeks. (some take longer, but I'm anxious > by then) > > As for forking -> commons, remember licensing issues. GPL/LGPL !=3D ASL. > In order for ASL to come into the picture you'd have to not fork but > start from scratch. IANAL, but that's how it's been presented before. > > Brian > > Mark wrote: > > I have contacted the maintainer of jmimemagic. How long should I wait > > before forking and trying to get acceptance into jakarta-commons? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: commons-user-help@jakarta.apache.org