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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 07:44:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirill Grouchnikov <kirillcool@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [betwixt] Time and memory performance
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> > > A link to each library is provided. I wouldn't want
> to
> > > copy
> > > too much information as it can get out of sync very
> > > quick.
> > > For JAXB 2.0 there is a specific mention that it
> requires
> > > 5.0+.
> 
> IMO it's important for usability.
> And it won't change for a given version of the library.

As said before, i do not intend to provide complete
information on each library. There's a link to the library
homepage to see more information. As stated on the project
homepage, the benchmark is run under JDK 5.0_02, so i don
not differentiate between libraries that run on 1.1.4 and
on 1.4.2 only.

> > > > Likewise it would be useful if the licensing and
> > > > re-distribution
> > > > requirements were noted.
> > >
> > > Same as above. Keeping track of licenses is not one
> of
> > > the
> > > project goals.
> > >
> 
> But it does form part of the usability.
> And the licence is unlikely to change, particularly for a
> specific version.

Once again, same as above (especially tracking down
licenses for dependant libraries).

> 
> > > >
> > > > Also, it says that JAXB consists of 5 jars, 2.4MB.
> > > > However, all I
> > > > could find on the Sun Website was a link to Java
> Web
> > > > Services
> > > > Developer pack 1.6, which is 27MB or 30MB in size.
> It
> > > > would be useful
> > > > to include download size (and ease of use finding
> the
> > > > jars!)
> > >
> > > The jars include only runtime jars (how bigger your
> > > application gets when it uses the specific library).
> > >
> 
> However, one of the criteria on the FAQ page includes the
> following:
> 
> * The time to download [...]

A minor one (especially since i'm on DSL line both at work
and at home). More important is the number of runtime jars
- for build.xml, but that's also a minor issue compared to
other bullets in the list. Thanks for pointing out though,
i'll add JAXB DL size to negative points, but it will not
affect the library size.

> 
> > >
> > > > XStream is normally used with XPP - did you test
> with
> > > > this? If so,
> > > > which version?
> > >
> > > xpp3.jar
> 
> There are various different versions of xpp3; the one
> currently linked
> from the xstream web-site is:
> 
> xpp3_min-1.1.3.4.I.jar
> 
> Was it this one? Or perhaps a later one?
> 

I see now that they have a new version out (1.1.2). I'll
evaluate it this weekend (along with the linked XPP
library). I don't remember the exact version of XPP linked
back when XStream was at 1.1.1

Regards
Kirill

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