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From James Ng <>
Subject Re: Hello... I'm new to this list...
Date Sun, 24 Jul 2005 07:28:32 GMT
Hi Robert,

Thank you very much for the information.
I'll try to read a bit more from this list and subsequently subscribe
to the developer list. I also feel that the documentation is a good
place to start.


On 7/24/05, robert burrell donkin <> wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 00:27 +0800, James Ng wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> hi james
> > My name is James and I am new to this mailing list. Thus I thought it
> > will only be right for me to introduce myself to the group 'cos I want
> > to actively contribute (if time permits).
> cool
> > Though I may be new to this group, I am no stranger to the jakarta
> > project, having been a developer of four years, using all the
> > wonderful packages apache has provided: tomcat, poi, commons, etc.
> > Thank you apache for making my job so much easier.
> :)
> > Now that I have accumalate some experience, I hope to be able to start
> > contributing to the apache cause. I no longer want to be just a lurker
> > here but to start from being a user to a contributor.
> >
> > However, I am not confident in participating in big projects and feel
> > comfortable only in writing small program parts. So please give me
> > advice in what I am suppose to do next. Thank you very much.
> >
> the ASF can be difficult because it tries to keep it's formal
> structures minimal and it's social structures maximal. so don't be
> surprised if no one has a straight answer for 'what am i supposed to
> do'. many folks here have worked with each others for years and it can
> be difficult to understand the dynamics. it's sort of expected that
> users will change to developers to committers to pmc members by a kind
> of osmosis. many do just that but confidence is a factor. however, i'm
> sure once you see your patches committed and thanks from grateful users
> confidence naturally grows.
> no matter how many times this question is asked, i always find it hard
> to answer. over the years, a lot of information has accumulated on the
> sites (, and
> reading everything would be a very good
> start :)
> if you want to start help developing components here in the commons,
> you'll need to subscribe to the developer list
> (http://jakarta.apache,org/site/mail.html). it's high volume and most
> people cope by using filters. i'd strongly suggest just reading for a
> little while: this will give you an understanding of the social side as
> well as finding out which components are most active and which
> committers are most interested in which components.
> the classic answer as to where to start is this: pick a component that
> interests you and start finding out what needs developing. anytime
> people ask for a volunteer to code something, jump in and offer your
> services. answering questions on the user list and creating new
> documentation are excellent ways to learn a component.
> if you have no particular favourites, then just lurk on the dev list and
> whenever anyone asks for a volunteer, put yourself forward.
> - robert
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