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From Martin Cooper <mfncoo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: maven : why marmalade ?
Date Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:27:49 GMT
On 6/24/05, A Leg <hale_india@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Simon
> 
> Thank's for your answer.
> 
> I don't see any answer about the community process.

If you're talking about changes in Maven, the community is on the
Maven lists, not here in Jakarta Commons.

> To help for answer I explain this question below giving an example on
> how it works with Jini :
> When Jini team want to change/improve some specification. Before to do
> it they propose it to the community, so community can vote.
> 
> This is the way that all standards works (Iso, Env, etc..).
> 
> Why maven, and more generaly, apache projects does not follow similar way ?

You need to be asking these questions on the Maven lists. We're only
customers of Maven here. ;-)

--
Martin Cooper


> It could be costly, for users, to change to often and standards try to
> be stable.
> That is why I was asking for the reasons of change : to know what will
> be the benefits, to understand and appreciate.
> 
> Have fun
> 
> Andre
> 
> 
> Simon Kitching wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 08:36 +0000, A Leg wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>I just got a look on maven 2 description and I have some questions ?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I suggest you try the maven list for answers specifically about
> >marmalade/jelly and the future of Maven.
> >
> >
> >
> >>What about marmelade license which seems not to be Apache License V2 ?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >It's a BSD license which is perfectly compatible with the Apache
> >license. Not every good project in the world is here at Jakarta...
> >
> >
> >
> >>What about living an Apache project for a codehaus project ?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >If people think it's better then it's their choice. Projects get
> >superceded by better designs over time - that's progress. Sometimes it
> >happens as version N+1 of an existing project, sometimes it's something
> >external.
> >
> >Besides, I *believe* that maven2 provides the option to use Marmalade,
> >Jelly or any other language. So it's adding options rather than dropping
> >Jelly support.
> >
> >
> >
> >>I personaly feel that all hat moves : ant to maven, cvs to subversion,
> >>jelly to marmalade where people create news peojects instead of
> >>contributing to improve existing one, all these moves are not a big
> >>advantage for open source.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >If you don't like change, I'm afraid you're in the wrong industry.
> >Computer software is improving fast, and that means change. Yes it's a
> >little tiring to keep up sometimes but that's better than stagnation.
> >
> >It's not just open source; people are screaming about the end of Visual
> >Basic and Win9x. And Borland JBuilder users are facing a change soon -
> >to a product built on Eclipse. Tough luck, times change.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Already my ISP does not support Linux because instead of having one good
> >>linuxconf they have many "proprietary" configuration tools.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Then they're fools. They should pick one linux distribution and stay
> >with it; no need to support multiple types. And anyway the differences
> >between linux variants really are pretty trivial. I suspect they're not
> >telling you the real reason.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Simon
> >
> >
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