Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 74404 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 14:37:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 14:37:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 54638 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2005 14:37:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-user-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 54397 invoked by uid 500); 31 Mar 2005 14:37:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-user-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Users List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 54372 invoked by uid 99); 31 Mar 2005 14:37:24 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,URIBL_SBL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of dakota.jack@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.202 as permitted sender) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.202) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:37:22 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 58so545974wri for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:37:20 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=pYZGYf5FPPpxr/vkL/PsqLHVLgMWTmXH7AAC0Uc47dJZrP0WK5LCotOMSXxYhdLfp5Q2EvC4EjssfJO76kroy4PEuiN1wJAM5zvHdym8a9J+UIKR2frgaIUZT4e0ub0/22K3pyEbGIYUytWQMqcCP8jqdz8TV7I8Aw97bEG9Y5c= Received: by 10.54.103.15 with SMTP id a15mr1085117wrc; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.48.51 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:37:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:37:20 -0800 From: Dakota Jack Reply-To: Dakota Jack To: "Frank W. Zammetti" Subject: Re: [OT] The wisdom of Albert (was Chain: too damn buggy to be out of sandbox) Cc: Jakarta Commons Users List , craigmcc@apache.org In-Reply-To: <10465.12.27.179.239.1112277727.squirrel@webmail.chiron.lunarpages.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <424ADB4C.7040907@squadra.com.br> <424AE0B3.9030704@squadra.com.br> <10465.12.27.179.239.1112277727.squirrel@webmail.chiron.lunarpages.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Seneca said: "[w]hen in Rome, do as the Romans do. When not in Rome, do as the Romans do". You know what this has been taken to mean. "EVERYONE" makes the same mistake frequently. That is kind of the nature of "EVERYONE". The book "In Praise of Folly", which actually is taken to be in praise of folly by "EVERYONE", was written by Erasmus in grief over the beheading of his friend, Thomas More by Henry VIII. Peter Nannius wrote: "Erasmus the glory of our times, lived in the heart of More, More, the sole light of Britian, lived in the heart of Erasmus. The one exchanged life with the other; each lived a life not his own. It is no marvel that with the death of More, Erasmus wished for death, unwilling to live longer". The title word "folly" is a Latin pun for More and the title actually means "In Praise of More", who was recognized as one of the most if not the most erudite (certainly no friend of folly) man in extant Christiandom. Now "EVERYONE" thinks that the book is in praise of the simple life and, indeed, folly. Plato's "The Republic" (whose actual title is "The City" - "politeia") is a careful _reductio ad absurdum_ of the idea of a perfect city that suspiciously sounds like the hated Sparta (Socrates took hemlock rather than leave Athens, remember) but this has not stopped "EVERYONE" from forgetting the admonition in that book to hide behind the walls until the political winds have died down and from deciding that the book attempts to do the opposite, i.e. posit a perfect society based on Spartan principles. "EVERYONE" takes the New Testament, a book slabbed together and retrofitted from multifarious sources to meet the political ends of Emporer Constantine and his toady Eusebius to be the Word of God itself. "EVERYONE" also says the Lords Prayer in public, which aside from being an obviously later addition to the Book of Matthew was cautioned by Jesus to be used only in private. "EVERYONE" is not a good source. "EVERYONE" is a particulary bad source on the Internet, the home of fluff and deception for small personal triumphs. There, now you have it. ///;-) Jack On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:02:07 -0500 (EST), Frank W. Zammetti wrote: > http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~cheshire/EinsteinQuotes.html > http://home.att.net/~quotations/einstein.html > http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Albert_Einstein/ > http://www.tc.umn.edu/~burc0050/quotes_einstein.html > http://www.cersanmystical.org/Quotes%20of%20Einstein-1.htm > > I admit I couldn't find an actual citation, probably on the 2nd or 3rd > page of Google results... but, if it's not a real quote at least EVERYONE > seems to be making the same mistake :) > > -- > Frank W. Zammetti > Founder and Chief Software Architect > Omnytex Technologies > http://www.omnytex.com > > On Thu, March 31, 2005 1:28 am, Dakota Jack said: > > I know that people have said Einstein said this. Does anyone have a > > real citation to prove it? This does not sound like Einstein. This > > sounds like a list-geek. > > > > Jack > > > > > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:27:32 -0800, Craig McClanahan > > wrote: > >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:24:03 -0300, Vinicius Caldeira Carvalho > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > Einstein used to say : " Two things are infinite: the universe and > >> human > >> > stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Well I guess I > >> fit > >> > right in to it. Sorry, no bugs, just dumb user and stressed manager > >> > complaining about the deadline. > >> > > >> > Im trully sorry > >> > > >> > >> We've all been there at least once :-). Good luck! > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: commons-user-help@jakarta.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." > > ~Dakota Jack~ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: commons-user-help@jakarta.apache.org > > > > > > -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: commons-user-help@jakarta.apache.org